[blind-chess] Fall Tournament Re: Re: blind-chess Digest V2 #223
- From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:21:58 -0700
Hi Ginny,
Thanks, you are in. I think there will be a fourth division now since Rod
said he would play if an extra was needed.
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ginny Alverson" <sportsgirl17@xxxxxxx>
To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:41 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Re: blind-chess Digest V2 #223
Hi, Richard: I'd like to play in the fal/winter tournament.
Thanks.
Ginny and Elijah
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:07 AM
Subject: blind-chess Digest V2 #223
blind-chess Digest Mon, 19 Sep 2011 Volume: 02 Issue: 223
In This Issue:
[blind-chess] Re: Revised Ladder Standings Version 2 (Lucy m
[blind-chess] Re: Revised Ladder Standings Version 2 (Lucy m
[blind-chess] Ladder Challenge: Benson Challenges Jensen
[blind-chess] Sorry, illegal challenge ... Re: Ladder Challe
[blind-chess] Ladder Challenge for Jessica from Lucy
[blind-chess] Ladder challenge game: Grib2-Jensen Re: Ladder
[blind-chess] Revised Ladder Standings
[blind-chess] Need two more players for Fall-Winter Tourname
[blind-chess] Ladder Challenge: Benson Challenges Alverson
[blind-chess] Ladder Challenge Game: Benson-Alverson Re: Lad
[blind-chess] Revised Ladder Standings
[blind-chess] More on Vacations and the Ladder was ...Re: Re
[blind-chess] A Test, Please Ignore
[blind-chess] More on Vacations and the Ladder was ...Re: Re
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From: "Hugh Pharis" <h62730mp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Re: Revised Ladder Standings Version 2 (Lucy moves
up)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:38:24 -0400
This is very clear and readable!
----- Original Message -----
From: R Dinger
To: chess
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:08 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Revised Ladder Standings Version 2 (Lucy moves up)
This is my first attempt at the new format with columns aligned per Rod's
request. It is easy to change, so now is your chance to comment.
I am wondering, for example, if the date should appear before the status
column. I am also interested in how screen magnifier and screen reader
users like the columns.
Latest Ladder Order and Player Status
# First Last clr Status Active Game
Date
1 Curtis Cockayne (W) defender Cockayne-Zolotarevsky Aug
01
2 Donna Jodhan (B) available
3 Rebecca Blaevoet (W) defender Gieschen-Blaevoet Sep
08
4 Randy Kruzeniski (B) defender Cooper-Kruzeniski Sep
01
5 Chris Chaffin (B) available
6 Jessica Grib2 (W) available
7 Lucy Jensen (B) available
8 Ginny Alverson (B) available
9 Dick McStraw (W) defender Wallach-McStraw Apr
20
10 Paul Benson (W) available
11 Stan Lovell (W) available
12 Edward Zolotarevsky (W) challenger Cockayne-Zolotarevsky Aug
01
13 Lewis Wallach (B) challenger Wallach-McStraw Apr
20
14 Mike Gieschen (B) challenger Gieschen-Blaevoet Sep
08
15 Allen Maynard (W) available
16 Andrew Cooper (B) challenger Cooper-Kruzeniski Sep
01
17 Kallie Swanepoel (B) available
18 Jeffrey Turner (W) defender Blazik-Turner Sep
05
19 Brandt SteenKamp (B) defender Beatty-SteenKamp Aug
31
20 Alvin Blazik (B) challenger Blazik-Turner Sep
05
21 Vinnie Beatty (B) challenger Beatty-SteenKamp Aug
31
22 Rod Macdonald (W) available
The following players have vacations scheduled:
Vinnie Sep 10 through sep 17
Stan L Sep 19 through sep 26
Randy K Sep 23 through Sep 30
Carol H Sep 24 through Oct 9
Stan L Oct 4 through Oct 6
Donna J Dec 17 through Jan 9
Remember vacations must be scheduled two weeks in advance, unless it is an
emergency.
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From: "Carol Harvester" <harvesterca@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Re: Revised Ladder Standings Version 2 (Lucy moves
up)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:34:59 -0400
I use the screen reader and screen magnifier. It looks and works very well
for me.
Carol
----- Original Message -----
From: R Dinger
To: chess
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:08 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Revised Ladder Standings Version 2 (Lucy moves up)
This is my first attempt at the new format with columns aligned per Rod's
request. It is easy to change, so now is your chance to comment.
I am wondering, for example, if the date should appear before the status
column. I am also interested in how screen magnifier and screen reader
users like the columns.
Latest Ladder Order and Player Status
# First Last clr Status Active Game
Date
1 Curtis Cockayne (W) defender Cockayne-Zolotarevsky Aug
01
2 Donna Jodhan (B) available
3 Rebecca Blaevoet (W) defender Gieschen-Blaevoet Sep
08
4 Randy Kruzeniski (B) defender Cooper-Kruzeniski Sep
01
5 Chris Chaffin (B) available
6 Jessica Grib2 (W) available
7 Lucy Jensen (B) available
8 Ginny Alverson (B) available
9 Dick McStraw (W) defender Wallach-McStraw Apr
20
10 Paul Benson (W) available
11 Stan Lovell (W) available
12 Edward Zolotarevsky (W) challenger Cockayne-Zolotarevsky Aug
01
13 Lewis Wallach (B) challenger Wallach-McStraw Apr
20
14 Mike Gieschen (B) challenger Gieschen-Blaevoet Sep
08
15 Allen Maynard (W) available
16 Andrew Cooper (B) challenger Cooper-Kruzeniski Sep
01
17 Kallie Swanepoel (B) available
18 Jeffrey Turner (W) defender Blazik-Turner Sep
05
19 Brandt SteenKamp (B) defender Beatty-SteenKamp Aug
31
20 Alvin Blazik (B) challenger Blazik-Turner Sep
05
21 Vinnie Beatty (B) challenger Beatty-SteenKamp Aug
31
22 Rod Macdonald (W) available
The following players have vacations scheduled:
Vinnie Sep 10 through sep 17
Stan L Sep 19 through sep 26
Randy K Sep 23 through Sep 30
Carol H Sep 24 through Oct 9
Stan L Oct 4 through Oct 6
Donna J Dec 17 through Jan 9
Remember vacations must be scheduled two weeks in advance, unless it is an
emergency.
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From: "Paul Benson" <paul.benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Challenge: Benson Challenges Jensen
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:50:07 +0100
Hello all,
A ladder challenge is issued.
Benson challenges Jensen.
Paul Benson.
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From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Sorry, illegal challenge ... Re: Ladder Challenge:
Benso
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 07:50:52 -0700
Hello Paul,
Since Ginny is available and within the first two rungs of the Ladder above
you, you must either wait until Ginny is playing or challenge her first.
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Benson" <paul.benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 6:50 AM
Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Challenge: Benson Challenges Jensen
Hello all,
A ladder challenge is issued.
Benson challenges Jensen.
Paul Benson.
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From: "Lucy Jensen" <lucyjensen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Challenge for Jessica from Lucy
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:26:11 -0600
I would like to challenge Jessica to a ladder game. Lucy
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From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder challenge game: Grib2-Jensen Re: Ladder
Challenge
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:32:35 -0700
The Ladder challenge game:
Grib2-Jensen
is scheduled September 19, please begin your game within 3 days.
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Lucy Jensen
To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 8:26 AM
Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Challenge for Jessica from Lucy
I would like to challenge Jessica to a ladder game. Lucy
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From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Revised Ladder Standings
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:36:00 -0700
Latest Ladder Order and Player Status
# First Last clr Status Active Game Date
1 Curtis Cockayne (W) defender Cockayne-Zolotarevsky Aug
01
2 Donna Jodhan (B) available
3 Rebecca Blaevoet (W) defender Gieschen-Blaevoet Sep
08
4 Randy Kruzeniski (B) defender Cooper-Kruzeniski Sep
01
5 Chris Chaffin (B) available
6 Jessica Grib2 (W) defender Grib2-Jensen Sep
19
7 Lucy Jensen (W) challenger Grib2-Jensen Sep
19
8 Ginny Alverson (B) available
9 Dick McStraw (W) defender Wallach-McStraw Apr
20
10 Paul Benson (W) available
11 Stan Lovell (W) available
12 Edward Zolotarevsky (W) challenger Cockayne-Zolotarevsky Aug
01
13 Lewis Wallach (B) challenger Wallach-McStraw Apr
20
14 Mike Gieschen (B) challenger Gieschen-Blaevoet Sep
08
15 Allen Maynard (W) available
16 Andrew Cooper (B) challenger Cooper-Kruzeniski Sep
01
17 Kallie Swanepoel (B) available
18 Jeffrey Turner (W) defender Blazik-Turner Sep
05
19 Brandt SteenKamp (B) defender Beatty-SteenKamp Aug
31
20 Alvin Blazik (B) challenger Blazik-Turner Sep
05
21 Vinnie Beatty (B) challenger Beatty-SteenKamp Aug
31
22 Rod Macdonald (W) available
The following players have vacations scheduled:
Vinnie B Sep 10 through sep 17
Stan L Sep 19 through sep 26
Randy K Sep 23 through Sep 30
Carol H Sep 24 through Oct 9
Stan L Oct 4 through Oct 6
Donna J Dec 17 through Jan 9
Remember vacations must be scheduled two weeks in advance, unless it is an
emergency.
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From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Need two more players for Fall-Winter Tournament
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:14:20 -0700
Hi All,
The following players have signed up so far:
1 Paul Benson
2 Edward Zolotarevsky
3 Rebecca Blaevoet
4 Brandt SteenKamp
5 Curtis Cockayne
6 Vinnie Beatty
7 Alvin Blazik
8 Greg Mason
9 Mike Gieschen
10 Lucy Jensen
11 Stan Lovell
12 Richard Dinger
---
13 Jerry Doody
14 Carol Harvester
We need two more to fill out another group of four players so Jerry and
Carol can play. Players are accepted in the order they signed up, but will
be grouped by rating so you play others of similar skill.
Please do not wait until the last minute as it creates more last minute
work.
Richard
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From: "Paul Benson" <paul.benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Challenge: Benson Challenges Alverson
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 21:16:57 +0100
Hello Richard and all,
Ladder challenge:
Benson challenges Alverson.
Paul Benson.
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From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Challenge Game: Benson-Alverson Re: Ladder
Challe
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:04:39 -0700
The Ladder challenge game:
Benson-Alverson
is scheduled September 19, please begin your game within three days.
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Benson" <paul.benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:16 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Ladder Challenge: Benson Challenges Alverson
Hello Richard and all,
Ladder challenge:
Benson challenges Alverson.
Paul Benson.
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From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] Revised Ladder Standings
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:07:36 -0700
Latest Ladder Order and Player Status
# First Last clr Status Active Game Date
1 Curtis Cockayne (W) defender Cockayne-Zolotarevsky Aug
01
2 Donna Jodhan (B) available
3 Rebecca Blaevoet (W) defender Gieschen-Blaevoet Sep
08
4 Randy Kruzeniski (B) defender Cooper-Kruzeniski Sep
01
5 Chris Chaffin (B) available
6 Jessica Grib2 (W) defender Grib2-Jensen Sep
19
7 Lucy Jensen (W) challenger Grib2-Jensen Sep
19
8 Ginny Alverson (B) defender Benson-Alverson Sep
19
9 Dick McStraw (W) defender Wallach-McStraw Apr
20
10 Paul Benson (B) challenger Benson-Alverson Sep
19
11 Stan Lovell (W) available
12 Edward Zolotarevsky (W) challenger Cockayne-Zolotarevsky Aug
01
13 Lewis Wallach (B) challenger Wallach-McStraw Apr
20
14 Mike Gieschen (B) challenger Gieschen-Blaevoet Sep
08
15 Allen Maynard (W) available
16 Andrew Cooper (B) challenger Cooper-Kruzeniski Sep
01
17 Kallie Swanepoel (B) available
18 Jeffrey Turner (W) defender Blazik-Turner Sep
05
19 Brandt SteenKamp (B) defender Beatty-SteenKamp Aug
31
20 Alvin Blazik (B) challenger Blazik-Turner Sep
05
21 Vinnie Beatty (B) challenger Beatty-SteenKamp Aug
31
22 Rod Macdonald (W) available
The following players have vacations scheduled:
Vinnie B Sep 10 through sep 17
Stan L Sep 19 through sep 26
Randy K Sep 23 through Sep 30
Carol H Sep 24 through Oct 9
Stan L Oct 4 through Oct 6
Donna J Dec 17 through Jan 9
Remember vacations must be scheduled two weeks in advance, unless it is an
emergency.
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From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] More on Vacations and the Ladder was ...Re: Re:
Changes
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:21:35 -0700
Hello again Paul and all,
Hold on, I think I made a mistake. I thought the understanding was that
when you are in vacation mode, the other players can skip over you regarding
challenges. That is sort of the penalty for going off on vacation, you
drift down as others move over you.
second, when you go on a scheduled vacation during a game, time in that game
is suspended until your stated return date.
Is this the general consensus?
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "R Dinger" <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:19 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Re: Changes to Ladder Notice
Hello Paul and all,
I will most likely handle any special cases like challenging a player on
vacation manually at first, but I hope to automate as much as possible over
the next few months. As my free time permits, of course.
While we are discussing the Ladder and the format of the standings, if
anyone has requests for changes to other reports, now would be a good time
to speak up.
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Benson" <paul.benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: [blind-chess] Re: Changes to Ladder Notice
Hello Richard and all,
I think your proposal, of abbreviated month name, followed by the day number
should work fine. No need for the year at all.
You are talking of automating the challenge process at your end. Have you
taken into consideration, the possibility of a challenge being issued to an
individual who is on vacation? Such challenges are allowable, but the start
date of the game and the 3 days for the first move to be made, will be the
day after the announced vacation dates. Will your automated process pick
this up?
I have no feelings on full names or initials, though a screen reader should
cope quickly with the first name. Perhaps a braille user will be slowed a
little, but could skim along the first name quickly.
Paul Benson.
-----Original Message-----
From: R Dinger - Email Address: rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent On: 17/09/2011 19:17
Sent To: chess - Email Address: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-chess] Changes to Ladder Notice
Hello All,
I am working on automating the routine administration tasks of the Ladder
and I am ready to start testing my new system on the real thing. As a
result please let me know if anything looks wrong or out-of-place regarding
the Revised Ladder Standings sent out by email.
Also, this is your chance to let me know what changes you would like to see
in that Revised Ladder Standings notice. I plan on including the date a
challenge was made for example.
Dates can be shown many ways, but I do not really like the form I am
currently using (a carry over from a previous group). Almost any form can
be used (the computer does all the work) so let us decide on something
better. Some possibilities are:
1 numbers: 09/17/2011 or 09/17/11
2 short month names: Sep 17, 2011 or 17Sep2011
3 long names: September 17, 2011
Keep in mind members use screen readers, text magnifiers and Braille
devices. I suspect in all cases that short is good since it reduces reading
time, so I am tentatively proposing just a simple Sep 17 for a challenge
date and we should be able to figure out the year.
Along that same line we currently show each Ladder player's first name as
well as their last name. Do you want me to not show first names in order to
speed up reading? Are there any further suggestions to make reading the
standings easier?
Eventually, I will be sending out the challenge confirmations through
automatic emails. As a result I may be sending some test messages to the
list. Please do not respond as they are only tests.
Richard
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from: Richard Dinger <rrdinger@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] A Test, Please Ignore
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:14:51 -0400 (EDT)
This is a simple test message.
Please do not respond
Richard
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From: "Paul Benson" <paul.benson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-chess] More on Vacations and the Ladder was ...Re: Re:
Changes
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 04:28:35 +0100
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