[bksvol-discuss] Re: restriction on synopsis
- From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:20:47 -0800
I always found it easiest to just write my own short and long synopses.
(spelled with "es" for the plural.)
Liz in Portland
Liz Halperin
Portland, OR
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: restriction on synopsis
This is on Jake's site.
Information for the long synopsis can not be copied from a website like
Amazon or Barnes and Noble. The material on
those sites are copyrighted and should not be used on Bookshare.
I spoke with Gustavo about the long synopsis and book jacket issue. What
Gustavo says is not permitted is including quotes off the book jacket which
come from places like the New York Times, Amazon, etc. There is a copyright
issue related to including these quotes. However, there is no problem with
using the synopsis provided by the publisher , so it's fine to use it for
the long synopsis on Bookshare.
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From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Publisher Quality Books needing synopses
> Not to worry, Mayrie. The brief synopses I will supply
> won't go into the collection, fortunately or
> unfortunately, as the case may be. They'll only be on
> the list I send out of English-language books that
> have been added to the collection that day.
>
> Pratik, what exactly is the boookshare policy? I would
> never take a whole review, and I usually, when I do
> synopses for books I'm going to upload into the
> collection, either write my own or take from the cover
> flap. But does bookshare prohibit a sentence of two or
> three? How exactly is the prohibition worded?
>
> G.Cindy
>
> --- Mayrie ReNae <mrenae@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cindy,
>>
>> You are very kind to make this offer. But,
>> I, personally,
>> would rather that you didn't provide synopses for
>> publisher quality
>> books. My issue is only partially that the synopses
>> aren't
>> there. It is also partially that Bookshare (the
>> organization) is not
>> holding itself to the standards it has itself set by
>> not providing
>> synopses for books submitted in-house. If you
>> provide synopses, you
>> are just keeping those who submit and validate those
>> books from
>> having to do the work that is required for the
>> submission of books.
>>
>> Also, regarding the lack of brf copies of these
>> books, I am glad that
>> there is a work around for our deaf-blind Bookshare
>> users. But,
>> again, Bookshare is not holding itself to the
>> standard which it has
>> set by saying that books are available in brf
>> format, and then not
>> providing that format on these books.
>>
>> I understand and appreciate that fixes for all of
>> these things are in
>> the works. That is nice. I just think that
>> releasing these books
>> into the Bookshare collection that do not meet
>> Bookshare's own
>> criteria for books in its collection is premature.
>> It is just my
>> opinion, but I think these books should be held in
>> reserve until they
>> meet all existing Bookshare criteria for books being
>> submitted, and
>> included in the collection.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Mayrie
>>
>> At 03:21 PM 2/23/2008, you wrote:
>> >Ann and Mayrie, and others.
>> >
>> >You are all very persuasive, and I should have read
>> >all of today's mail before posted the one about
>> >synopses.
>> >
>> >For those of you who receive my nightly emails of
>> >books-added, I will provide some kind of synopsis,
>> >genre if nothing else, but more if I can. Anyone
>> not
>> >on my list who wants to be added can let me know
>> >offlist.
>> >
>> >G. Cindy
>> >popularplace@xxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> >--- Ann Parsons <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Mayrie,
>> > >
>> > > Hmmm, I've left your message below deliberately.
>> I
>> > > think you are right
>> > > in that the publisher Quality books do need
>> > > synopses. I think that
>> > > before you decide not to submit any more books,
>> you
>> > > may want to
>> > > consider how this boycott will affect readers.
>> The
>> > > Bookshare staff
>> > > isn't going to care if you don't submit any
>> books,
>> > > just you, Mayrie.
>> > > The whole volunteer contingent would have to
>> boycott
>> > > Bookshare in order
>> > > for it to affect the staff.
>> > >
>> > > On the other hand, here's a couple of solutions.
>> > > First, your
>> > > suggestion of making the submitter of the
>> Publisher
>> > > Quality books
>> > > responsible for their synopses is not a good
>> idea
>> > > because these books
>> > > come in large bunches. To make one person
>> > > responsible for synopses for
>> > > all these books is, IMO unfair.
>> > >
>> > > However, there is a solution, which I think will
>> be
>> > > equitable for all.
>> > > How would it be if there was a new job created
>> > > called Synopsis Hunter.
>> > > It's not as interesting as hunting for the
>> snark, I
>> > > am sure, but it is
>> > > a worthy task. Could there be a list created
>> > > somewhere of these
>> > > Publisher Quality books so that a Synopsis
>> Hunter
>> > > could find them and
>> > > seek their synopses? Might I suggest that a
>> > > volunteer be given $1.00
>> > > credit for each book for which he/she found a
>> > > synopsis?
>> > >
>> > > This also would require one of the staff to
>> place
>> > > synopses with their
>> > > books. this would add to their work load
>> because
>> > > the books really
>> > > should have their synopses accompanying them
>> when
>> > > they're submitted.
>> > > That allocation of staff resources should, of
>> course
>> > > be done by
>> > > Benetech admins.
>> > >
>> > > No, Mayrie, I don't think you need boycott
>> Bookshare
>> > > because they
>> > > haven't refused to fix the problem. They
>> haven't
>> > > had time to ignore
>> > > it, and they haven't even come onto the list to
>> > > express an opinion or
>> > > give info either way. Now, if they refused
>> utterly
>> > > to make equitable
>> > > solutions, or if they refused to listen to you,
>> or
>> > > something like that,
>> > > then, you might have reason for a boycott.
>> However,
>> > > let's not throw
>> > > out the baby with the bath water quite yet.
>> Give
>> > > Benetech a chance to
>> > > answer us.
>> > >
>> > > BTW, I noticed that Amazonia by James Rollins is
>> now
>> > > on Bookshare. I
>> > > have downloaded this book, and plan to read it
>> post
>> > > haste. I can't
>> > > write a synopsis because I haven't read it, but
>> > > Rollins is in the same
>> > > category with Preston and Child. There are
>> several
>> > > of his books
>> > > already on Bookshare. His books are
>> excellent!
>> > > They are edge of the
>> > > chair, pounding heart, non-stop science
>> > > fiction/suspense novels that
>> > > will cause you to cancel all engagements, turn
>> off
>> > > your phone, put out
>> > > a Do-Not-Disturb sign on your door, and
>> generally
>> > > make it impossible
>> > > for you to do anything at all except read! Oh,
>> you
>> > > might want to pause
>> > > long enough for sustenance, as reading does
>> require
>> > > some brain power
>> > > and food keeps your brain active.
>> > >
>> > > Ann P.
>> > >
>> > > Original message:
>> > > > Hello Everyone,
>> > >
>> > > > As volunteers we are required to
>> include
>> > > at least a short synopsis
>> > > > with our submissions of books in order to have
>> > > them even accepted as
>> > > > submissions. I do not like not seeing any
>> > > synopses at all with the
>> > > > dozens of Publisher Quality books. If we are
>> > > required to provide a
>> > > > synopsis with each book that we wish to add to
>> the
>> > > Bookshare
>> > > > collection, I think that Publisher Quality
>> books
>> > > should not be exempt
>> > > > from this requirement.
>> > >
>> > > > I don't know who is responsible for adding
>> these
>> > > new Publisher
>> > > > Quality books to the collection, but I think
>> > > whoever is responsible
>> > > > for including them should also be responsible
>> for
>> > > including a
>> > > > synopsis with each book. It isn't as though
>> > > anyone had to take the
>> > > > time to scan the book, or even validate it, so
>> > > someone should at
>> > > > least be held accountable for providing a
>> > > synopsis.
>> > >
>> > > > If I want to know if a book is of interest to
>> me,
>> > > I have to go
>> > > > seeking somewhere else a synopsis of it. That
>> > > isn't impossible, but
>> > > > it is a pain, especially since we as
>> volunteers
>> > > are required to make
>> > > > the effort to include a synopsis with each
>> book
>> > > which we wish to have
>> > > > added to the Bookshare collection.
>> Requirements
>> > > should be
>> > > > requirements across the board, in my opinion.
>> > >
>> > > > I am seriously considering not submitting any
>> more
>> > > books until this
>> > > > inequity has been rectified.
>> > >
>> > > > Mayrie
>> > >
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