[bksvol-discuss] Re: proofing boooks with tables
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 12:59:45 -0700 (PDT)
Thanks, Melisssa. My problem was that I couldn't tell, even though I'm sighted,
how many columns there were. I tried 3 and that made the table look better; I
don't still have the book, but the table was the width of the text. It just
occurred to me that maybe I could have minimized it (I'm at the point now that
I have to enlarge print to at 175 %in order to proof. I'll try minimizing next
time I do a bok with table before sending the page to Judy for help.
Thank you all.
Cindy
--- On Wed, 6/15/11, Melissa Smith <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Melissa Smith <mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofing boooks with tables
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 10:37 AM
> As to the number of columns, you put
> the number of columns that are in the book. I generally use
> the tab key as my cell separator, and there should be a
> paragraph mark at the end of each row. If there is a blank
> cell, I put a space there, so that there are still the same
> number of columns in each row. Also, if the book has
> information from one cell on more than one line, it should
> go altogether, Word's table feature will wrap it for you.
> Only use one tab between cells, and don't try to line up the
> information, all of this will be taken care of when you
> convert it to a table. When you have all of this done, you
> need to select all of the text, then bring up the table menu
> with alt a, arrow down to convert, press right arrow to open
> this menu item, which has a submenu, and press enter on text
> to table. This will bring up a dialog, where you tell it
> that you used tabs as the separator, and the number of
> columns, it has a couple of other options that I've never
> changed. These directions are for Word 2003. If you have a
> later version of Word, they may be slightly different. I
> don't believe there is a table menu in the ribbon, I believe
> it is under something else. If you have 2007 or 2010, you
> may try right clicking after you've selected the text. Word
> 2007 and beyond has made many options readily available
> through the context menu that is brought up by right
> clicking. For those of us who are blind, we can use the
> application key to bring up the context menu that comes up
> when sighted folks right click. Hope this has helped someone
> when creating a table.
>
> Melissa Smith
>
> On 6/14/2011 5:54 PM, Cindy wrote:
> > I tried using the table feature; T tried converting
> table to text and then text to table;one thing I may have
> done wrong is that I didn't know how many columns to put in
> > CIndy
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Melissa Smith<mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Melissa Smith<mdsmith25@xxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proofing boooks with
> tables
> >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 2:04 PM
> >> Tables can be done, and really it
> >> isn't that difficult. You just have to
> >> use Word's table feature, not tabs. The only real
> problem
> >> with tables is
> >> that they don't can well. Unfortunately, I don't
> have time
> >> to explain
> >> how to use Word's table feature right now. Perhaps
> someone
> >> else can?
> >>
> >> Melissa Smith
> >>
> >> On 6/14/2011 3:42 PM, Cindy wrote:
> >>> I've spent a lot of time in the past trying to
> proof
> >> books with tables. Sometimes I've translated them
> into words
> >> and paragraphs; recently I tried converting them
> to text;
> >> (that didn't work well). Most recently I had to
> give up. I
> >> found that most often the table merely illustrates
> what's
> >> said in the text and isn't really necessary. In
> some cases I
> >> merely said. "bar graph or table. (though tables
> are usually
> >> titled in the text.
> >>> With my last 2 books I finally gave up and
> deleted the
> >> tables and explained that they were merely
> illustrative, not
> >> essential.
> >>> Bookshare told me that they can convert or do
> >> something with tables, but when I uploaded the
> books they
> >> were returned to me
> >>> I guess it depends on the kind and size
> (length, I
> >> mean the width of the table.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy
> >>> --- On Tue, 6/14/11, Judy s.<cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> From: Judy s.<cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: way to refer
> to
> >> other books?
> >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Date: Tuesday, June 14, 2011, 11:23 AM
> >>>> Let me second Sue on this -- I'd love
> >>>> to have a book like this on
> Bookshare. I
> >> don't scan,
> >>>> but if you'd be willing to try scanning
> it,
> >> Charisma, I'd be
> >>>> willing to proof it, as long as you keep
> the
> >> images of the
> >>>> pages until the proofing is done.
> That way I
> >> can get a
> >>>> page image from you if I need it when
> proofing
> >> tricky parts
> >>>> like tables. smile.
> >>>>
> >>>> Judy s.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sue Stevens wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Charisma,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some of us cannot hear audio books, so
> having
> >> a book
> >>>> on the Bard site would do us no
> good. True
> >> we are a
> >>>> small group, but we appreciate it when
> such books
> >> are in
> >>>> Bookshare.
> >>>>> Sue S.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From:
> Charisma
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:55 PM
> >>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] way to refer
> to
> >> other
> >>>> books?
> >>>>> I was looking to see if Bookshare had
> a copy
> >> of this
> >>>> book because I
> >>>>> wanted to listen to it.
> >>>>> I checked the publisher and the site
> and etc
> >> and it is
> >>>> not there. So I
> >>>>> was about to scan it when I remembered
> that I
> >> had
> >>>> listened to it
> >>>>> initially through NLS/BARD. Since they
> have it
> >> I am
> >>>> not going to scan
> >>>>> it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But I wish there was a way to refer
> folks to a
> >> place
> >>>> that has a thing
> >>>>> when Bookshare does not. It looks as
> if the
> >> brain
> >>>> injury books on
> >>>>> Bookshare are regarding pediatric
> injuries
> >> only, but
> >>>> this one is for
> >>>>> any age.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> IS there a way? This has been an
> extremely
> >> helpful
> >>>> book to me and at
> >>>>> least one of my doctors. If it was not
> so
> >> tricky with
> >>>> tables and all I
> >>>>> would go ahead and push through if it
> was not
> >>>> available anywhere else.
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