As I said, I can see the index being an optional matter as to whether to
include it, but not such other stuff as Contents, Preface and Notes and so
on.
Also, it may be true that noone has read those books yet, but as Bookshare
continues to grow, the chances of those books being read will go up. Even
if Bookshare were not to grow, someone now a member may need one or more of
those in the future, or just may not know that it is there, or may become
interested in looking at it for some other reason. Lack of so-far
popularity is not a reason to be cavalier about omitting such things.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] indices et al
The books I've validated that have had indices and footnotes at the back, I've just left. Usually they're readable, even if not in vertical lines. I have included notes that if they're a problem for any reader and that person wants me to fix them for me to contact me and I will fix them, but so far no one has. I wonder if anyone has even read any of those books. smile
Cindy
--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sorry, but to me, that is way too much omission. Table of contents? Not putting that in is inconceivable to me. I can understand the index being left out, although the last two books I scanned had indexes, and I took the trouble to fix the first one up, and I will soon be fixing up the other, but contents, foreword, preface, etc. may not be technically core content, but they aren't even usually that long.
I want to try to nip this kind of thinking in the bud if I can, because the last thing I want to see on Bookshare is books turning up without contents, and other preliminary material, but especially without contents. I hope, as already stated with the possible exception of the index, that we aren't going to start seeing stripped-down versions of books here. I know that this may take extra time for some people who want to be conscientious and turn in a quality addition to the collection. This is especially true if a book has a lot of endnotes or reference notes. A recent book I scanned had a couple hundred of them. That's one of the things that sometimes disappoints me about some books that NLS puts out. When I hear something like 'The forty pages of reference notes in the print edition have been omitted in this recording.', I feel cheated. Call me a nerd if you want to, but I actually read those things. That's a good source of future reading material for me, and I want to keep it in Bookshare books.
But the main impetus to writing this was the idea put forth here that a table of contents could be omitted because it is not core content. I hope Gustavo steps on this one hard.
----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:15 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know the
answer to this...
> You would let a book in if it were missing its preface, introduction and > endnotes but contained the text and the appropriate title page copyright > info? Interesting. > > E. > > > At 11:39 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote: > >>Hi Lea, >> >>This may be surprising, but since the end notes and indices are not 'core >>content', you can submit the book as is. I have dropped appendices or >>indices a few times, when they were hopelessly muddled. I would suggest >>writing a note to Gustavo in the comment section when you upload the book >>about the missing 30 pages, since he may overrule me. >> >>This of course begs the question: what exactly is the 'core content' of a >>book? I believe it's the center core of the book, not the table of >>contents, the foreword, the introduction, the afterword, glossary, >>appendices, indices, etc, etc, etc. Bookshare requires the title and >>copyright pages and the core content, but I believe that's all. As I said >>though, Gustavo may have a different opinion, so if you want to make >>absolutely sure, you could write him, using the email address in the To >>section of this email. >> >>HTH, Carrie >> >>Pascha Lea <pascha2u@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I've started validating a text book, and I've just noticed that all of the >>end-notes and indexes aren't scanned. I have the hard-copy of the book, so >>I know there about 30 pages of this stuff missing. As I don't have access >>to a scanner, my first reaction would be to reject this as an incomplete >>book. My question is - would not having the end-notes and indexes make >>this book 'incomplete'? >> >>Thanks, >>Lea >> >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Everyone is raving about the
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