[bksvol-discuss] Re: indices et al

As I said, I can see the index being an optional matter as to whether to include it, but not such other stuff as Contents, Preface and Notes and so on.

Also, it may be true that noone has read those books yet, but as Bookshare continues to grow, the chances of those books being read will go up. Even if Bookshare were not to grow, someone now a member may need one or more of those in the future, or just may not know that it is there, or may become interested in looking at it for some other reason. Lack of so-far popularity is not a reason to be cavalier about omitting such things.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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The books I've validated that have had  indices and
footnotes at the back, I've just left. Usually they're
readable, even if not in vertical lines. I have
included notes that if they're a problem for any
reader and that person wants me to fix them for me to
contact me and I will fix them, but so far no one has.
I wonder if anyone has even read any of those books.
smile

Cindy

--- Evan Reese <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sorry, but to me, that is way too much omission.
Table of contents?  Not
putting that in is inconceivable to me.  I can
understand the index being
left out, although the last two books I scanned had
indexes, and I took the
trouble to fix the first one up, and I will soon be
fixing up the other, but
contents, foreword, preface, etc. may not be
technically core content, but
they aren't even usually that long.

I want to try to nip this kind of thinking in the
bud if I can, because the
last thing I want to see on Bookshare is books
turning up without contents,
and other preliminary material, but especially
without contents.  I hope, as
already stated with the possible exception of the
index, that we aren't
going to start seeing stripped-down versions of
books here.  I know that
this may take extra time for some people who want to
be conscientious and
turn in a quality addition to the collection.  This
is especially true if a
book has a lot of endnotes or reference notes.  A
recent book I scanned had
a couple hundred of them.  That's one of the things
that sometimes
disappoints me about some books that NLS puts out.
When I hear something
like 'The forty pages of reference notes in the
print edition have been
omitted in this recording.', I feel cheated.  Call
me a nerd if you want to,
but I actually read those things.  That's a good
source of future reading
material for me, and I want to keep it in Bookshare
books.

But the main impetus to writing this was the idea
put forth here that a
table of contents could be omitted because it is not
core content.  I hope
Gustavo steps on this one hard.

----- Original Message ----- From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:15 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: I think I know the
answer to this...



> You would let a book in if it were missing its preface, introduction and > endnotes but contained the text and the appropriate title page copyright > info? Interesting. > > E. > > > At 11:39 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote: > >>Hi Lea, >> >>This may be surprising, but since the end notes and indices are not 'core >>content', you can submit the book as is. I have dropped appendices or >>indices a few times, when they were hopelessly muddled. I would suggest >>writing a note to Gustavo in the comment section when you upload the book >>about the missing 30 pages, since he may overrule me. >> >>This of course begs the question: what exactly is the 'core content' of a >>book? I believe it's the center core of the book, not the table of >>contents, the foreword, the introduction, the afterword, glossary, >>appendices, indices, etc, etc, etc. Bookshare requires the title and >>copyright pages and the core content, but I believe that's all. As I said >>though, Gustavo may have a different opinion, so if you want to make >>absolutely sure, you could write him, using the email address in the To >>section of this email. >> >>HTH, Carrie >> >>Pascha Lea <pascha2u@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I've started validating a text book, and I've just noticed that all of the >>end-notes and indexes aren't scanned. I have the hard-copy of the book, so >>I know there about 30 pages of this stuff missing. As I don't have access >>to a scanner, my first reaction would be to reject this as an incomplete >>book. My question is - would not having the end-notes and indexes make >>this book 'incomplete'? >> >>Thanks, >>Lea >> >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Everyone is raving about the

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