[bksvol-discuss] guido's synopsis display idea

  • From: "Jesse Fahnestock" <Jesse.F@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:08:53 -0700

I give Guido a hard time whenever possible and due credit all too seldom. A 
good idea, and I'm going to enter it as a feature request as soon as I can 
connect to our tracking database!


 

This would simplify the life of volunteers,  while still presenting subscribers 
with a highly usable  and flexible interface. 



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Personally, I like having the ability to see a long synopsis when it is


available, so I would be disappointed to see it illiminated.  I just wanted


to give my opinion in this unofficial and unsolicited E-mail poll. :-)



Thank you for your answer about the textarea tag.  Some html guides online


must be incorrect, which I suspected since my tests with it didn't work.


Could you tell me if there is a reason why textarea is used instead of input


when input would allow for easy limiting of the number of characters


entered? I know there may very well be a good reason for the other tag that


I just don't know about. I know it will allow 200 characters as a length,


because I tested that.


Thanks.



Sarah Van Oosterwijck


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From: "Jesse Fahnestock" <Jesse.F@xxxxxxxxxxxx>


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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:06 AM


Subject: [bksvol-discuss] synopses, quality, etc.




> Hey all -- sorry I've been offline for some lively conversation! I'll try


to weigh in where necessary. As always, please feel free to email me offline


about any of these issues.


>


> 1. Synopses: Just to be clear, while I understand the desire for synopses,


books missing one or both forms of synopsis should not be rejected on that


basis, by volunteer or administrator. I have no problem with the urging and


cajoling of our fellow volunteers to include them, but making them mandatory


would simply be prohibitive and discouraging for some of our submitters,


especially those who submit in bulk.


>


> 2. The synopsis bug: There are a few cases where the synopsis being


entered will not stick: namely, books that have previously been submitted


and approved, whether or not they have since been withdrawn. In those cases


the original synopses will stick. Validators are able to change the synopses


on brand new submissions, however, so please don't be discouraged! The vast


majority of your synopses are sticking. We're working on fixing it for books


that have already existed on Bookshare.org, but it's been a tricky one.


>


> 3. Synopses from other sources: please do not copy synopses from


Amazon.com or any other source, unless it is the same copy found on the book


jacket. That is copyrighted material, and while it is "quotable" in a news


context (like Alison's newsletter) it should not be used as the synopsis in


our collection.


>


> 4. Site improvements: the categories issue is a long-standing one, and one


we've spent a lot of time trying to plan for. While we do acknowledge the


need for better category management, making changes would require a large


amount of database work (not to mention likely manual recategorization),


and, if it were not a completely robust solution, might need to be done over


and over again. The full-scale answer is to change our metadata source


entirely to something like what the library of congress uses. This change is


probably a ways out still, but given our limited resources, it probably


makes more sense to make that change once rather than try to take


half-steps.


>


> The notification for users of rejection reasons is on the way, I'm told.


Look for it in a rejection notice coming to you soon! (grin)


>


> The short synopsis field is a textarea field, and that does not accept the


maxlength attribute. As Sara (I think) noted, fixing the length would


require javascript, which is problematic for many users. I will float the


idea for a single synopsis -- keep in mind that this will be displayed on


the search results page, however, so it would still need to be pretty


limited. You couldn't have a 100-word synopsis there.


>


> 5. Regarding text quality: I love the fact that this group has high


standards -- I'm consistently amazed at the effort being put into the scans


of others by our volunteers. But I'd encourage us to try to avoid accusatory


messages when it comes to text quality. There are many mitigating factors,


some of which have already been pointed out here, and we would be wrong to


discourage anyone from submitting the books they want to share. So let's


focus on ensuring the readability and legibility of what has been submitted,


and of course encouraging our fellow scanners with tips and techniques as


many of us already do.


>


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