[bksvol-discuss] Re: finding paragraph symbol if you're blind

  • From: Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 02:37:30 -0700

I did some more searching and found this: ASCII code 244 = ¶ (
Paragraph sign or pilcrow ; end paragraph mark )

Does that work? Angel?


>>

>>> Sorry. I googled paragraph and blind and found a page that gives
>>> computer Braille codes but I'm in a hurry because I have to go out and
>>> so far and haven't found the code for the paragraph symbol, though
>>> lots of others are on the page. If you haven't found it  I'll look
>>> some more when I get back in a coupe of hours.
>>> CIndy
>>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 4:48 AM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Ok thanks. But Cindy there's one thing that I saw as u were writing this 
>>>> out. I saw that u were writing the steps out of how I would find my 
>>>> paragraphs faster. U were writing them out as if I were sighted. And I am 
>>>> not. I'm totally blind. Can anyone that is blind explain to me of how to 
>>>> find my paragraphs faster, so that way I can fix the breaks of how they 
>>>> should b fixed? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 5:12 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Open the edit menu. click on Find or replace;  either one opens a box;
>>>>> at the top is a space next to words Find what. put your cursor there;
>>>>> at the bottom of  at the bottom of the Find and replace box, on the
>>>>> right-hand side, you'll find a small rectangle with the word special
>>>>> and small arrows. click on the up arrow and at the top you'll find the
>>>>> words paragraph mark.  click on that an then you can find all the
>>>>> paragraph symbols. you'll want to put a space in the replace box.
>>>>> you're safest to replace each one at a time. after you've done this
>>>>> for a while, you can, very carefully highlight a section, i.e.,
>>>>> several lines and do a replace all; but you have to be very careful
>>>>> not to include the paragraph symbol that's at the end of the
>>>>> paragraph. I really recommend, if you're reading what you're proofing
>>>>> sentence by sentence, that you delete the end-of-line paragraph
>>>>> symbols as you go along, but if you're feeling up to it,  and want to
>>>>> try the global replace method, go ahead. Just be very careful or
>>>>> you'll end up with a page-long, document-long single paragraph.
>>>>> Although Ii know how to do it  and have done it successfully,  I don't
>>>>> do it when I'm proofreading, i.e., reading the file anyway. I delete
>>>>> them line by line.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ok Cindy thanks for the help. But now I'm wondering one thing though. Is 
>>>>>> there a faster way to find my paragraphs in MS Word 2007? Pleast me know.
>>>>> o to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 2:20 AM, Cindy Rosenthal <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Cindy Rosenthal 
>>>>>>> <grandcyn77@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I agree with you Nimit, and I do that, too--even after all these
>>>>>>>> years. It definitely is safer than the global replace which I did once
>>>>>>>> or twice--very carefully-- for a book that had been returned to the
>>>>>>>> download list that I really didn't want to read. If we're proofing by
>>>>>>>> reading, deleting the paragraph symbols as we go along doesn't take
>>>>>>>> that much more time; and if we forget to replace with a space
>>>>>>>> occasionally the final spell-check will catch the two words joined
>>>>>>>> that shouldn't be.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The paragraph symbol is  an open backwards p (I tried to copy from one
>>>>>>> of my files and paste here but it didn't work.   It should be at the
>>>>>>> end of a paragraph but some are mistakenly put at the ends of lines
>>>>>>> when the next thing is a line and not a new paragraph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wait. I googled and found this one that I copied ¶   except,  that
>>>>>>> what is black in this example is usuall open and there is space, not
>>>>>>> closed black
>>>>>>> I also found that it's called a  pilcrow. (that might come in useful
>>>>>>> should I ever need to know it for a crossword puzzle; grin
>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Nimit Kaur <kaur.nimit@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi sue,  I totally agree with you.  The replace will take out hyphen
>>>>>>>>> from compound words.  But, I do most of the proofing manually since I
>>>>>>>>> feel it's most accurate.  I am taking the paragraphs breaks out
>>>>>>>>> manually once I get the book.  I think that takes a little time, but
>>>>>>>>> thanks to bookshare volunteer staff to give us options to renew, or I
>>>>>>>>> would be out of my credits.  I don't always get enough time to do that
>>>>>>>>> work, because of school and stuff.  I am a busy person.  Well, sorry
>>>>>>>>> to get out of topic a little, but all I wanted to say that doing
>>>>>>>>> things manually might be a little too much, but it's more accurate.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!  Have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Sue Stevens <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nimit,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is how I do it. I am reading through the book anyway, so I just 
>>>>>>>>>> connect
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> those words as I come to them. Word sometimes like to pull a funny 
>>>>>>>>>> on you
>>>>>>>>>> when you do a global find and replace. One thing it can do is take 
>>>>>>>>>> out all
>>>>>>>>>> the hyphens, including those that are meant to be hyphenated as 
>>>>>>>>>> compound
>>>>>>>>>> words.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sue S.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Nimit Kaur
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 3:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending 
>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel!  OH.....  I think all that step is saying that if you have 
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> book where on the last page a word has a hyphen and it finishes on 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> next page. You connect that word.  I'll give you an example if I
>>>>>>>>>> confused you.  Well, let's say if you have a word, brilliant.  The
>>>>>>>>>> scanner has it like that:
>>>>>>>>>> Bril (hyphen) or dash
>>>>>>>>>> Page number (12)
>>>>>>>>>> Liant )the word continued.)
>>>>>>>>>> So, now what you have to do is reconnect that word brillliant all
>>>>>>>>>> together.  There is a way to do it by replace all, but I haven't done
>>>>>>>>>> it and I just do it manually.  Is that right, everyone?  If I am
>>>>>>>>>> wrong, please come to explain.  Thanks and have a good day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/15/13, Angel Murphy <angel.murphy83@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> No they haven't yet. Step 11 says, reconnect words across page 
>>>>>>>>>>> breaks
>>>>>>>>>>> I have to do a hyphen carete and a lowercase letter p. And then it 
>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>> correct each instance you find.
>>>>>>>>>>> What do I need to do after that?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "Martha Rafter" <mlhr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry I've been away from my desk for the day.  Did someone 
>>>>>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> with combining words over 2 pages?  If not, let me know!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help with steps, and sending 
>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I am referring to the proofing file. And I think it was from 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mardy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Angel Murphy
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:25 PM, "Dornetta" <dornetta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Angel;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the proofing file that was sent to you? And 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which file are you using--the one from me or the one from Marty, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Netta
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Just because you are blind does not mean you lack vision"-Stevie
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wonder
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>>>>>>>>>> “JUST BECAUSE A MAN LACKS THE USE OF HIS EYES DOESN’T MEAN HE LACKS
>>>>>>>>>> VISION!!" By STEVIE WONDER
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND THINK!!"
>>>>>>>>>> By STEVIE WONDER
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>>>>>>>>> "Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND THINK!!"
>>>>>>>>> By STEVIE WONDER
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