[bksvol-discuss] Re: fair books I rejected are back on step 1 -- The Brat was unfairly 'faired'
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:41:18 -0800 (PST)
I agree that one needs to look at them, check them
out. I've taken some in which the first few pages were
pretty bad and I was thinking of rejecting them but
then the book started to be quite problem-free--until
the last few pages. grin So fixing it wasn't bad.
G.Cindy
--- Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Just finished work on "The Brat". In the end the
> Bookshare processor
> assigned a quality rating of 99.97% or so. Not bad
> at all for a 'fair'
> book. We should give aledgedly 'fair' books in the
> queue a chance with a
> once-over before nuking them. G.
>
> G.
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain
> they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just
> maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came
> closest to being wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
>
> Guido Corona/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
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> [bksvol-discuss] fair books I rejected are back on
> step 1 -- The Brat?
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> I am working on The Brat. I can't see anything
> wrong with the book. has
> a K1K rating of 99.55%. Repaired author in title
> page. Normalizing page
> headers and reconstructing words split by page
> boundaries. Seems to be
> very high quality OCR job. Am I missing something?
>
> G.
>
>
> Guido Dante Corona
> IBM Research,
> Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> Austin Tx.
> Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
>
> ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain
> they were right who
> were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just
> maybe, those who
> questioned the most were in the end those who came
> closest to being wise."
> [David Poyer, The Command]
>
>
>
> "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> 01/27/2008 02:01 PM
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> [bksvol-discuss] fair books I rejected are back on
> step 1
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>
> I rejected several romances with "fair" ratings.
> They are back on
> step 1 with comments by Carrie.
>
>
> the books are
> No buttons or bows
> the brat
> Broken Vows, Mended Hearts
> Second Chances Abound (Wisconsin, Book 3)
> squeeze play
>
> Just letting you folks know in case somebody wants
> to put in all the
> effort it will take to fix up these mysteries. I
> think there is a lot
> of work here though some may find it interesting to
> fix these up. If
> you have a lot of time, here's your chance to fix up
> fair scans.
>
> E.
>
>
> At 07:20 PM 1/20/2008, you wrote:
>
> >Bob, if you are experiencing disk space problems,
> have you
> >considered getting a small external hard drive? It
> is possible to
> >find them some weeks at about $50 at one of the
> major retailers
> >around the nation. I usually look at
> salescircular.com. here are
> >the listings for TEXAS:
> ><http://salescircular.com/tx/computer/hdiskp.shtml>
> http://salescircular.com/tx/computer/hdiskp.shtml
> >
> >
> >Guido
> >
> >
> >Guido Dante Corona
> >IBM Research,
> >Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> >Austin Tx.
> >Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> >Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >Web:
> <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> >". . . Maybe it was only those who were most
> certain they were right
> >who were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe,
> just maybe, those
> >who questioned the most were in the end those who
> came closest to being
> wise."
> >[David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >"Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >01/20/2008 01:42 PM
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> >To
> ><bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >cc
> >Subject
> >[bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise and Fall
> of the Third Reich
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Unfortunately, I no longer have the original
> document. It's a big book
> and I
> >have limitted disk space.
> >
> >Sorry.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 12:43 PM
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The Rise
> and Fall of the Third
> >Reich
> >
> >
> > > Ok. Whoever validated the Rise and Fall, would
> you please e-mail me
> > > pages,
> > > Roman numeral 10, 11, and 12? If you kept the
> book that you
> validated,
> > > this
> > > should be an easy task. I'd like to compare the
> input with the
> resulting
> > > text. I believe I know what's happening but
> would like to confirm. If
> > > you
> > > don't have the text available, please let me
> know and I'll contact
> Claire.
> > > I'll write a separate message regarding what
> happens with Kes and
> Braille.
> > > There have been more than 60 messages on this
> topic in the last few
> days
> > > and
> > > it might just confuse a lot of people. If you
> have the pages, you can
> > > send
> > > them to me at pratikp1@xxxxxxxxxx There is no
> reason for the list to
> get
> > > involved until I can check this out.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > Pratik
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > [<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Judy s.
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:19 PM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> Rise and Fall of the
> Third
> > > Reich
> > >
> > > I've seen it often, where chapters end in the
> middle of the page, and
> a
> > > new
> > > chapter starts on the same page right below the
> previous chapter's
> ending,
> > > but I
> > > can't recall ever seeing a table of contents
> ending and chapter 1
> > > beginning
> > > on
> > > the same page.
> > >
> > > Judy s.
> > > cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Kenneth Cross wrote:
> > >> Just how many books have you validated where a
> chapter actually began
> on
> > >> the same page where the book's Contents ended;
> i.e., Contents ends,
> > >> Chapter 1 is indicated, and part of Chapter 1
> begins on that same
> page?
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma
> Cindy"
> > > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:35 PM
> > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with The
> Rise and Fall of the
> > >> Third Reich
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> In many print books, such as the book I'm
> validating
> > >>> now, chapters do begin in the middle of the
> page,
> > >>> though I don't see any logical reason for it.
> I also
> > >>> don't see a reason why chapters have to begin
> on an
> > >>> odd-numbered, or right-hand (facing the
> reader) page,
> > >>> requiring a blank page preceding it. This is
> as
> > >>> annoying to the sighted reader as it probably
> is to a
> > >>> blind reader--and a waste of paper.
> > >>>
> > >>> G.Cindy
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> - Chapters will begin on the same page with
> > >>>> the Contents of the book, and most chapters
> begin in
> > >>>> the middle of a page. One would think that
> there
> > >>>> was a better way.
> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob
> > >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:50 PM
> > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me with
> The
> > >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Okay, this is pretty strange.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As I said in a previous message I was using
> > >>>> k1000v10. Others with other software or other
> > >>>> versions of Kurzweil may find different
> results.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I downloaded the daisy copy of "the rise
> and fall
> > >>>> of the third Reich" and opened it in
> Kurzweil.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> There are random page numbers that do show
> in the
> > >>>> book, page VII for example. However, most are
> > >>>> missing. But, Kurzweil is true to the book if
> you
> > >>>> make allowances for the extra page that
> bookshare
> > >>>> adds in on page two. For example, page 1524
> in the
> > >>>> book was reported on page 1525. So, to find
> out what
> > >>>> page you are on press shift f1 in the book
> and
> > >>>> mentally add the number 1 to whatever k1000
> reports
> > >>>> you are on.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I checked out header avoidance in the
> reading
> > >>>> settings, making sure that header avoidance
> was
> > >>>> enabled. According to the manual, this should
> report
> > >>>> page headings, but it doesn't.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I swear the page numbers were there when
> the book
> > >>>> was submitted to the bookshare
> administration. I can
> > >>>> only conclude that the stripper took them
> out, or
> > >>>> Kurzweil isn't reporting them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am going to save the book in .txt format,
> open
> > >>>> it with a good old text editor and see if
> page
> > >>>> numbers and, I hope, page breaks are there.
> But,
> > >>>> don't hold your breath. I'll report it if
> there is
> > >>>> any difference.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Bob
> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
> Kenneth Cross
> > >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:35 PM
> > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me
> with The
> > >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Will the daisy tags indicate the actual
> page
> > >>>> number or will those tags reflect the number
> of
> > >>>> pages, including introductory pages? Any
> way, I
> > >>>> will try that right now.
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kellie Hartmann
> > >>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:51
> PM
> > >>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Help me
> with The
> > >>>> Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you get the Daisy version, you can
> see the
> > >>>> page numbers in the Daisy tags using the
> Bookmark
> > >>>> list commands. Otherwise, you can use a
> notetaker or
> > >>>> bookport or book courrier if you have one,
> or, if
> > >>>> you need to, you can use Internet Explorer to
> read
> > >>>> the html version included with the Daisy
> version.
> > >>>> Use the Jaws placemarker commands to make
> bookmarks
> > >>>> or save your place, or convert the file back
> to txt
> > >>>> with Explorer and put it back in Kurzweil.
> > >>>> Kellie
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> >
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