[bksvol-discuss] Re: bso books in general collection

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:43:23 -0700 (PDT)

Thanks, Gerald.

Cindy

--- Gerald Hovas <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Cindy,
> 
> As Jill indicated, BSO is not part of the title of
> the book, but the title
> of the file, so you won't be able to see it by doing
> a search.  You also
> won't be able to see it as part of the filename
> since you aren't a menmber
> and therefore can't download books from the
> collection.
> 
> As I indicated in an earlier message, it's not
> necessary to ask Gustavo
> because he has already explained the purpose of BSO.
> 
> BSO in the title is a way for him to get a quick
> indication that the book is
> intended to replace an existing book in the
> collection.  It's not the only
> way to indicate this, however.  As long as someone
> has placed a note in the
> comments which explains the same thing, then Gustavo
> won't kick the book
> back when he finds a copy already in the collection.
> 
> After thinking about it, it's possible that Gustavo
> has access to both the
> title entered by the submitter and the title entered
> by the validator since
> the title entered by the submitter appears to still
> be in the system.  I was
> thinking earlier that the initial title was no
> longer available when Gustavo
> approves the book, but I'm not sure that's the case
> since the original info
> appears to be what's there if Gustavo kicks the book
> back.
> 
> Gustavo will also remove BSO prior to approving the
> book, so it's not
> necessary that the validator do it.
> 
> Gerald
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Cindy
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:29 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bso books in general
> collection
> 
> Lisa said she removed the BSO frm Rules of Prey and
> didn't have any trouble with its being accepted. As
> far as she knows, of course, sice she wasn't the
> submitter.
> 
> I just checked the collection and R of P is there in
> excellent condition, no BSO. I also did an Advanced
> search with BSO in the title and the only books were
> ones that had bso as part of the actual title, e.g.,
> in the word absolute.
> 
> If the BSO shows up in the BRF copies, maybe it
> would
> be preferable to remove it when uploading *as long
> as
> one remembers to write in the comments section that
> it's a replacement,* so Gustavo knows?
> 
> I agree with Lisa and Elizabeth, it would be nice to
> hear from Gustavo what he'd prefer. Perhaps you
> could
> ask him for us, Gerald?
> 
> Cindy
> --- Gerald Hovas <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Elizabeth,
> > 
> > You aren't the one who misunderstood.  If you
> remove
> > BSO from the title when
> > validating the book, then Gustavo doesn't see the
> > BSO during the admin
> > phase, and that is it's purpose, to give Gustavo a
> > quick indication that the
> > submitter knows the book is already in the
> > collection and that the book for
> > him to approve is a replacement.  Gustavo then
> > removes the BSO during the
> > approval process.
> > 
> > And just to give you a warm fuzzy feeling that
> > you've been doing it
> > correctly, Gustavo would have kicked the book back
> > if you were doing it
> > wrong, and he hasn't done that.  He's removed the
> > BSO from the title and
> > approved the book.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Gerald
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Elizabeth and
> > Burton
> > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:23 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bso books in general
> > collection
> > 
> > I was never given instructions as a validator to
> > remove the bso from a book 
> > title.  Perhaps I missunderstood something.  I
> left
> > in the bso figuring it 
> > would be removed when the book was approved.
> > 
> > I seek guidance from bookshare staff here.
> > 
> > E.
> > At 10:59 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote:
> > 
> > >It's not a technology issue but carelessness or
> > lack
> > >of knowledge on the part of the validators, who
> > should
> > >remove the BSO when uploading the book.  OR am I
> > >misunderstanding what you mean "when put up on
> the
> > >list." Is the BSO still there when the book is
> > added
> > >to the collection? Otherwise it doesn't matter.
> > >
> > >Cindy
> > >
> > >--- Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This Email perhaps should be sent to
> Bookshare,
> > but
> > > > does anyone on this list know why BSO books
> > retain
> > > > this in their title when they are put up on
> the
> > > > list? Since the fair copy they are replacing
> has
> > > > been removed, why is the BSO left intact in
> the
> > > > title. I would think this is confusing to
> > borrowers.
> > > > Is it  simply a technology issue where it is
> > simply
> > > > easier not to have to make the change. Jill
> > >
> > >
> >
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