[bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:21:15 -0800
Sue, In my note to Carrie I wasn't asking to change the numbering; I was just
commenting on why there were two numbers with the books scanned in the office
and only one in books scanned by Kurzweil. The question was asked out of
curiosity, nothing else.
----- Original Message -----
From: siss52
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:37 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
Hi Jill,
Well, I do not understand what you wanted to change. I just skip over the
two numbers, if there are two, and it doesn't bother me at all. (smile)
I saw on the list where you had asked Carrie to let you download a book and
change the numbering, but I did not understand why you would want to do this.
Is it just for your file, or were you wanting it changed on the site?
Just curious,
Sue S.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jill O'Connell
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:23 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
Sue, When we see two numbers, one is the page number given by the scanning
program which delineates page breaks; at least that's my understanding. In
general, I think the actual print page number is the most important, and unless
others have found this not to be true, it is my impression that Kurzweil
scanned books end up with only this number. Braille books produced by NLS, on
the other hand, show us both the print page and the braille page at least in
some of their books.
----- Original Message -----
From: siss52
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:13 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
Hi Jill,
I have always thought that was caused by the print page number being
retained, which would be good, and the BRF page number that is put in when the
books are converted. I don't think you, Carrie, have anything to do with there
being two page numbers. It doesn't bother me because I always remember that
there are people who would want to see the print page numbers.
Just my take on it.
Sue S.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jill O'Connell
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:42 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
American Wife by Curtis Sittenfeld; I'm reading in BRF format. This is not
the first book in which I have noted this double entry which is why I decided
to ask about it. Jill
----- Original Message -----
From: Carrie Karnos
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 10:40 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
Hi Jill,
Which New York Times book are you reading with 2 numbers after the page
break? I have never put 2 numbers on each page, I put just the page number. I'd
like to know how the book got messed up. I'll investigate if you'll tell me the
book title and author.
Thanks! Carrie
----- Original Message ----
From: Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:43:06 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
I find it very hard to believe that validators have been filling in all
of
my page numbers without ever contacting me. When I check my books which I
admit I don't do too often, the page numbers as well as the chapter
headings
have been there. This brings up another issue that I have been wondering
about. When I submit a book scanned with Kurzweil, the print page number
is
the only number shown; however, I am currently reading a book scanned
under
New York Times and after the page break, there are two numbers, one
representing the total number of pages in the book and the other the
print
page. Personally, I prefer having only one number shown. Jill
----- Original Message -----
From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:17 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
> Jill I suspect this info is about validating rather than scanning. The
> stripper will remove page numbers unless they are surrounded by
> linebreaks. If you as the submitter do not put them in, the validator
> needs to do so.
>
> E.
>
>
> At 01:38 AM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
>>Bud, I'm sure that's fine, but actually I don't even put a blank line
>>before
>>the number and it comes out just the way it should. I'm just talking
about
>>scanning in Kurzweil; I don't know anything about how it is best with
>>other scanning programs. Jill
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Schwab" <budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:07 PM
>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Hi Jill,
>>>
>>>
>>>It's always been hazy to me just where the top of the page is. I guess
>>>when Kurzweil announces a page number that's the top of the page, so
if I
>>>down arrow one time that should put the blank line there and then comes
>>>the page number which I put in there if there's none there, then
another
>>>blank line before the text starts. Does that sound right?
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Bud
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Where does the page number come in there? Should it be above chapter
>>>>>title with a blank line before and after?
>>>>>Thanks, that's always been hazy to me as to just what is the correct
>>>>>way.
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bud
>>>>>
>>>>>>--- On Sat, 10/18/08, siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > From: siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting Chapters
>>>>>> > To: bksvol-discuss@freelists
>>>>>>i> Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 12:27 AM
>>>>>> > Hi Susan,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yes, I do it like this:
>>>>>> > page break
>>>>>> > blank line
>>>>>> > asterisks
>>>>>> > blank line
>>>>>> > chapter name
>>>>>> > blank line
>>>>>> > Text
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: Susan
>>>>>> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:23 AM
>>>>>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Question About Protecting
>>>>>> > Chapters
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Hi Sue,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Do you put a blank line after the chapter name too? Thanks.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Susan
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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