Hi CIndy Thanks again for takig the book on. The book will answer that questions and many others. I too have been interested n deaf culture but have never learned an effective way to learn to sign. I tried a class but it was full imersion and very frustating. Anyways, thanks again for the help. If you have any questions, I wstil have the file. Take care Anastasia --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.