Gail, I can't tell navy blue from black, or some shades of green. I have a blouse that I thought was green; then when I went outside, after having put on a pair of pants with it that I thought was a good match, I realized that it's really a sort of turquoise or aqua shade. When I'm sorting my hsuband's socks and/or want to wear blue pants I have to take them outside to see if they're blue or black. Cindy --- "Gail The U. S. Male" <gail1959@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > some key words here are observe, feel, and ponder. I > had a small bit of > vision when I was younger, a pinpoint was what the > doctors called it. I was, > and am totally blind, but I could see shadows, > primary colors, *shades of > blue, for example I couldn't tell, but blue versus > green I could* I also had > light perception, which meant I could see light, and > I could tell you if it > was a table lamp, or floor lamp, or ceiling fixture, > and whether it was the > long fluorescent lights or just incandescent bulbs. > I've totally lost that > ability now, and it frustrates me to no end > sometimes, since sighted people > quite often forget to turn the light off after they > leave one of my rooms. > Then the neighbors make comments like, "Did you know > the porch light has > been on for three days now?" No, I didn't, or I'd > have turned it off. all > the light probes I've seen, I can't hear, since I > also have a high frequency > hearing loss. That's something I've never > understood. Why they thought that > if you made something for the use of blind people, > it had to be high > frequency! > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Cindy > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 1:51 AM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: infant cataract > surgery > > > Dear Lissi, > > Your letter posted here has prompted me to pass on > information that I wrote to Kasondra offlist. > > My elder daughter is a pediatrician. After reading > Kasondra's post, I asked her if she had any blind > patients. She said no, but she had two babies who > were > born with congenital cataracts. the first had an > operation removing them, and the second, a > four-month-old, will have one soon. When I asked if > a > two-yar-old could have the operation, she said that > it > was possible but that it wouldn't help much--he > would, > as happened with you at the age of three and a half, > have some slight vision, but his cortical pathways > would be so developed by the age of two that he > wouldn't have full vision. > > Your reaction to having some vision to be able to > see > colors, animals, etc. is interesting, and may help > others to decide whether it's worth having their > child > go through the operation or not. Do you know why you > had to have 7 operations? The definite impression I > got from Dori is that if the oepration is performed > in > infancy only the one would be necessary. Since no > older patient of hers has had the operation, I'm > guessing she doesn't know if one is enough or if > more > would be necessary. > > I pass on this information so anyone with the > condition who is worried about having children born > with congenital cataracts will know that the child > doesn't have to remain blind or partially sighted. > > Cindy > > > > > > nd Everyone Along This Strand, > > > > Shelley, re the average age for learning braille, > I > > agree with you that > > it's equivalent to the age children learn to read > > print, taking their > > individual rate of development yadah yadah in to > > account. > > > > For the record, my brother and I had bilateral, > > congenital cataracts as did > > our mother. Our father had no vision problems. > With > > our risk factor of > > passing cataracts to our children, both of us > opted > > not to have kids, a > > decision I now regret. You said it all, Shelly. > It's > > a lot to think about. > > > > With my achievements and failures and my past and > > current struggles, I'm > > glad my parents took the risk to have me even > after > > my brother was born > > first, with very little vision. I came along > totally > > blind until 7 surgeries > > gave me a little vision in one eye when I was > three > > and a half. I have had, > > and still have rough times, but there's all of the > > beauty, the people, the > > music, books, animals, colors, variety, endless > > things to observe, feel, > > and ponder...I'm grateful to have been born. > > > > Always With Love, > > > > Lissi > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:03 AM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: heavy books > > > > > > > kids that learn Braille usually start at the > same > > time that other kiddos > > > are > > > learning Print. Because, they are learning to > > read just as the other > > > kiddos > > > are. > > > > > > Smile. > > > > > > Indeed some disorders can be hereditary. Mine > is. > > I have Retinitis > > > Pigmentosa, and we don't know which form it is. > > The only major concern > > > for > > > the family right now, is to watch my brothers > and > > make sure they get > > > regular > > > eye check ups, and of course if I get married > and > > plan to have kiddos of > > > my > > > own, I need to be tested and so will my husband > to > > see if he is a carrier > > > of > > > the genetic traits for RP. If he does, then we > > might have up to a 75 > > > percent chance of having a child with RP, and > will > > have an almost 100% > > > chance of a kid who is a "carrier". > > > > > > It is pretty likely that both my brothers are > > carriers of the trait too. > > > But so far they don't appear to have it. > > > > > > Course RP usually shows up in your forties, so > > perhaps. > > > > > > If it is recessive, then it could have easily > > passed to them too. > > > > > > Things to think about. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden > > > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. > > > Graduate Advisory Council > > > www.guidedogs.com > > > > > > The vision must be followed by the venture. It > is > > not enough to > > > stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs. > > > > > > -- Vance Havner > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gail The U. S. Male" > <gail1959@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 8:35 PM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: heavy books > > > > > > > > > Cindy, indeed, some forms of blindness are > > hereditary. Most totally blind > > > kids start learning Braille in either > Kindergarten > > or first grade. The > > > child > > > could be taught at a younger age, I suppose, but > > most kids aren't. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Cindy > > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 6:16 PM > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: heavy books > > > > > > > > > That's a cute story, Kasondra. How old does a > > child > > > have to be before he can start learning to read > in > > > Braille? Are you and/or your husband bind? Are > > some > > > forms of blindness hereditary? Forgive me if I'm > > being > > > too personal. > > > > > > Cindy > > > > > > --- Kasondra Payne <Kassyp36@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >> Cindy, > > >> > > >> I just walked in my bedroom to answer the > phone, > > and > > >> I found my two-year-old > > >> son, Andrew on the floor, trying to read a > Harry > > >> Potter book. My husband > > >> always keeps one on his side of the bed, and > > Andrew > > >> just took off the cover, > > >> opened the book, and started turning pages. It > > was > > >> so cute that I just > > >> thought I should share it with all you guys. > > Andrew > > >> will read Braille > > >> someday because he is blind, but at least he > > shows a > > >> healthy interest in > > >> books now. 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