[bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses, and dashes

  • From: Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 15:31:12 +0000

Hi all,

Yes, that’s exactly right. Please move a footnote spanning two pages to the end 
of the first page. Thanks for asking!

Best,

Madeleine

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deborah Murray
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Hi Gary,

In the case of a footnote being split across two pages, I was told a long time 
ago that it was okay to put it together all on one page. I don't know if that's 
still the case—but it's what I do.

Deborah


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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
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I pretty much am in agreement with this except for one case, where the footnote 
itself crosses a page boundary.  Then what happens in print is that the 
continued note has a line above it--not a dashed line but a straight horizontal 
line.
I don't see how you do both that and asterisks without creating confusion.  But 
both would be needed, wouldn't they?

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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses, 
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Hi Kim, Richard, et al,

I'm curious, too, regarding the identification of superscripted footnote 
numbers using various AT reading devices. I read a lot of Bookshare books using 
Kurzweil 1000, and it doesn't recognize superscript as far as I can tell. I 
also can't create a superscript in K1000 when I'm scanning/proofing my books.
I wonder who is doing the testing and on what equipment. Madeleine?

As to formatting the footnote section at the bottom of a page...
We are supposed to re-connect words split across pages, but not sentences. I 
know, it can make reading a bit clunky, but that's the rule.

A while back some folks wanted us to insert [Begin footnots], or something 
similar where the page transitions to footnotes. Most of us who expressed an 
opinion were NOT in favor of the extra verbiage, and we were told not to do so 
at that time.
When I'm formatting a book I scan, I insert a line of asterisks between the end 
of the body text and the section of footnotes at the bottom of the page, just 
like we're supposed to do to indicate other transitions. I think any more than 
that is too intrusive.
I guess I don't think it's too  much to ask readers of BS books to know how to 
use their equipment and software. It really isn't that hard to figure out where 
the footnotes begin as long as there is some indicator of the blank line that 
usually appears in a print book.

Deborah

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Friedman
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and dashes

Hi Richard, interesting question. I’d like to know the answer myself. Any 
takers? Regards, Kim Friedman.

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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: New proofreading requirements: quotes, ellipses, 
and dashes

Can I ask this?

As a reader, then, of the books from Bookshare, when the footnotes are in 
there, and with the number and the super script, how does the reader know that 
is what they are getting to?

In my experience, I can be reading a sentence near the bottom of the page, and 
it drops off and you come to the footnotes.
2 questions.
1. When this occurs does the instructions say to make that sentence complete 
before the footnote, by grabbing the text on the next page, or something like 
that?
2. Would it be so bad to just have the text word Footnote before the footnote’s 
numeral? And in brackets?

Sorry if this is off topic. Or covered already somewhere before.
Perhaps I just need to be a better reader.

Thanks.
Richard

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