[bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good to their mothers In-reply-to: <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>

  • From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:32:06 -0800 (PST)

I'd proof it eventually, but I have 3 to do first. I'd do it before the 4th in 
my pile
Cindy

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--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good to their mothers 
> In-reply-to: <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 6:07 PM
> Hi Debbie.   I did a
> look-up on amazon and found this title:
> 
> But He Was Good to His Mother : The Lives and Crimes of
> Jewish Gangsters
> (Paperback)
> 
> 
> Is this the book in question?  I might buy it and scan
> it if anyone wants to
> proof it.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Debby Franson
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:58 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] But they were good to their
> mothers In-reply-to:
> <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> A friend sent this to me.  Here is some history, and
> the subject line is the
> title of a book.
> 
> But they were good to their mothers  !!!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   This is a side of Jewish history you may have 
> missed.
> 
>   There are few excuses for the behavior of
> Jewish  gangsters in the 1920s
> and 1930s. The best known Jewish gangsters -  Meyer
> Lansky, Bugsy Siegel,
> Longy Zwillman, Moe Dalitz,  David  Berman- were
> involved in the numbers
> rackets, illegal drug dealing,  prostitution, gambling
> and loan sharking. 
> They were not nice  men.
> 
>    During the rise of American Nazism in the
> 1930s and when  Israel was
> being founded between 1945 and 1948, however, they
> proved  staunch defenders
> of the Jewish  people.
> 
> 
>    The roots of Jewish gangsterism lay in
> the ethnic  neighborhoods of the
> Lower East Side; Brownsville,// //Brooklyn//;  Maxwell
> Street in Chicago;
> and Boyle Heights in Los Angeles. Like  other newly
> arrived groups in
> American history, a few Jews who  considered
> themselves blocked from
> respectable professions used crime  as a means to
> "make good" economically. 
> The market for vice flourished  during Prohibition and
> Jews joined with
> others to exploit the  artificial market created by
> the legal bans on
> alcohol, gambling, paid  sex and narcotics.
> 
>    Few of these men were religiously
> observant. They rarely  attended
> services, although they did support congregations 
> financially. They did not
> keep kosher or send their children to day  schools.
> However, at crucial
> moments they protected other Jews, in  America and
> around the world.
> 
>    The 1930s were a period of rampant
> anti-Semitism in  America,
> particularly in the Midwest. Father Charles Coughlin,
> the  Radio Priest in
> Detroit, and William Pelley of Minneapolis, among 
> others, openly called for
> Jews to be driven from positions of  responsibility,
> if not from the country
> itself.
> 
>    Organized Brown Shirts in New York and
> Silver Shirts in  Minneapolis
> outraged and terrorized American Jewry. While the
> older  and more
> respectable Jewish organizations pondered a response
> that  would not
> alienate non-Jewish supporters, others - including a
> few  rabbis -asked the
> gangsters to break up American Nazi rallies.
> 
>    Historian Robert Rockaway writing in the
> journal of the  American Jewish
> Historical Society, notes that German-American Bund 
> rallies in the New York
> City area posed a dilemma for mainstream  Jewish
> leaders. They wanted the
> rallies stopped, but had no legal  grounds on which to
> do so. New York State
> Judge Nathan Perlman  personally contacted Meyer
> Lansky to ask him to
> disrupt the Bund  rallies, with the proviso that
> Lansky's henchmen stop
> short of killing  any Bundists. Enthusiastic for the
> assignment, if
> disappointed by the  restraints, Lansky accepted all
> of Perlman's terms
> except one: he  would take no money for the
> work.  Lansky later observed, "I
> was  a Jew and felt for those Jews in Europe who were
> suffering. They were
> my brothers."
> 
>    For months, Lansky's workmen effectively
> broke up one  Nazi rally after
> another. As Rockaway notes, "Nazi arms, legs and ribs 
> were broken and
> skulls were cracked, but no one died."
> 
>    Lansky recalled breaking up a Brown Shirt
> rally in the  Yorkville section
> of Manhattan: "The stage was decorated with a 
> swastika and a picture of
> Hitler. The speakers started ranting. There  were only
> fifteen of us, but we
> went into action. We threw some of  them out the
> windows. . . 
> . Most of the Nazis panicked and ran out. We  chased
> them and beat them
> up... We wanted to show them that Jews would  not
> always sit back and accept
> insults."
> 
>    In Minneapolis, William Dudley Pelley
> organized a Silver  Shirt Legion to
> "rescue" America from an imaginary Jewish-Communist 
> conspiracy. In Pelle's
> own words, just as "Mussolini and his Black  Shirts
> saved Italy and as
> Hitler and his Brown Shirts saved Germany,"  he would
> save America from
> Jewish communists. Minneapolis gambling  czar David
> Berman confronted
> Pelley's Silver Shirts on behalf of the  Minneapolis
> Jewish community.
> 
>    Berman learned that Silver Shirts were
> mounting a rally  at Lodge. When
> the Nazi leader called for all the "Jew bastards" in 
> the city to be
> expelled, or worse, Berman and his associates burst
> in  to the room and
> started cracking heads. After ten minutes, they had 
> emptied the hall. His
> suit covered  in blood, Berman took the 
> microphone and announced, "This is
> a warning. Anybody who says  anything against Jews
> gets the same treatment. 
> Only next time it will  be worse." After Berman broke
> up two more rallies,
> there were no more  public Silver Shirt meetings
> in  Minneapolis.
> 
>    Jewish gangsters also helped establish
> Israel after the  war. One famous
> example is a meeting between Bugsy Siegel and Reuven 
> Dafne, a Haganah
> emissary, in 1945. Dafne was seeking funds and guns 
> to help liberate
> Palestine from British rule. A mutual friend arranged 
> for the two men to
> meet.
> 
>    "You mean to tell me Jews are fighting?"
> Siegel asked  "You mean fighting
> as in killing?" Dafne answered in the affirmative.
> 
>    Siegel replied, "I'm with you."
> 
>    For weeks, Dafne received suitcases
> filled with $5 and  $10 bills --
> $50,000 in all -- from Siegel.
> 
>    No one should paint gangsters as heroes.
> They committed  acts of great
> evil. But historian Rockaway has presented a textured 
> version of Jewish
> gangster history in a book ironically titled, "But 
> They Were Good to their
> Mothers."
> 
>    Some have observed that, despite their
> disreputable  behavior, they could
> be good to their people, too. A little  interesting
> bit of Jewish history.
> 
> 
> Debby
> 
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> have. Just dreaming
> about nice things is meaningless; it is like chasing the
> wind.--Ecclesiastes
> 6:9 NLT
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