[bksvol-discuss] Re: A plea to submitters

  • From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:04:55 -0500

Kenneth,  I am delighted you got the 'emotional' stuff out of your system 
as I do prefer to deal on a purely operational basis.

If a book contains pictorial inserts that break page sequencing, you can 
do one of two things:

1.  Remove the extra pages all together--this is wise only if the captions 
do not add value to the textual content.

2.  Move the text of the insert to the end of the book in a 
pseudo-appendix and place an editor's note as a place holder in the 
correct spot with a pointer to the actual insert.

If you have applied 9.01 and are still experiencing page break 
proliferation  during KES to RTF conversion,  we need to contact Kurzweil 
once again. 
Which engine are you using and with which settings?  Best thing would be 
to supply Stephen Baum with a couple of pages which can reproduce the 
problem, where you kept the page images with the OCR output.  Stephen will 
also need the settings file you are utilizing.

Finally,  I also scan for my own pleasure.  Those books that come out 
extremely well I cleanup even further then submit them for the benefit of 
our paying customers.  Other books I keep for myself only.

Guido

Guido D. Corona
IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
IBM Research,
Phone:  (512) 838-9735
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx

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"Kenneth A. Cross" <crossk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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To begin with, Guido, I deeply regret that you find my work so shoddy as 
to find it necessary to comment on it in a public forum.  Having said 
that, I want to point out to you that most of the eight or nine hundred 
books I have on the system are as readable as most. 
 
Having gotten that out of my system, there are some helps you can give me. 
 How does one maintain page integrity when twenty or thirty unnumbered 
pages of pictures intervene throughout the text?  Also, how does one 
maintain pagination when one switches a file from Kurzweil to RTF? 
 
The fact of the matter is that, even with version 9.1 of Kurzweil, I 
generate a lot of blank pages when translating to rtf. 
 
Finally, I don't really scan books for BookShare; I scan them for myself 
and I read most of them.  If BookShare doesn't want them, I'll stop 
submitting them.  I will, however, maintain my BookShare membership, 
because I think it is an excellent service. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Guido Corona 
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Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 8:42 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A plea to submitters


Kenneth,  hopefully with the new patch you obtained from Kurzweil you will 
no longer experience the amazing proliferation of spurious page breaks. 
That should make it much easier for you to perform a page integrity check 
on your books prior to submission.  It is truly of the utmost importance 
that you do so,  because while it will take you about 10 minutes to check 
the book and remove spurious pages,  an perhaps an extra 15 to integrate 
any missing pages,  the page integration step itself -- if left to the 
proofing pool -- may take several additional days of back and forth with 
reviewers until it is addressed and solved. 
As you can imagine,  that is not effective use of anyone's time. 

If you would like to receive some tips on how to perform a page integrity 
check quickly and effectively,  please let me know.  I will be happy to 
oblige,  either on the list or privately. 

Guido 



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IBM Accessibility Center,  Austin Tx.
IBM Research,
Phone:  (512) 838-9735
Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx

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Just possibly, it would be best to begin by communicating, if possible, 
with
the individual who submitted the book in the first place.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kellie Hartmann" <kellhart@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 1:08 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A plea to submitters


> Hi Pam,
> When you find these books with multiple pages missing it would be a good
> thing to report them, either directly to the Bookshare staff or to the
list
> so that I can forward your comments to the staff. And if you report this
to
> the list chances are that someone would be really helpful and track down 
a
> copy of the book to scan the missing pages.
> Kellie
>
>



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