[bksvol-discuss] Re: A Better Way to Read Ebooks

  • From: "Kim Loftis" <kll2277@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 16:06:46 -0500

Thanks, Kim!  I'm delighted to be a part of the merry throng!

Warmest,
Kim L, lest either of us gets too confused, <grin>

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From: "Kim Friedman" <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 6:31 PM
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Better Way to Read Ebooks

Hi, Kim, welcome to the merry throng of volunteers. Rest assured if you
need help for scanning, proofreading, or whatever you fancy, folks will
do all they can to help you. Now I guess I'll have to be sure which Kim
they're writing to, you or me. Regards, Kim Friedman.

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Loftis
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:23 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Better Way to Read Ebooks


Hi Jackie,

You did, indeed!  Thank you!!

I can't recall the exact title right now... I'll get back to you with
it,
though.  *smile*  Sorry!  Want to make sure it's accurate.

Warmest,
Kim

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From: "Ixchel, Jackie" <starsandhearts2@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 4:19 PM
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Better Way to Read Ebooks

Hi,
I hope I answered your question Kim. If you have any more please ask.
Out of curiosity, what is the name of the book? Jackie

On 3/2/12, Kim Loftis <kll2277@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Great!  That's no problem at all, and I'm happy to populate the
fields myself.  Thanks for the info, Roger!

Warmest,
Kim

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From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 4:01 PM
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Better Way to Read Ebooks

If there is no ISBN then go ahead and submit it anyway. You will
have to fill out all the metadata yourself though because the
database that Bookshare uses to populate those fields will not be
available for it. Before the mid 1970s most books did not have an
ISBN and before 1968 no book had an ISBN. We would not want to
exclude those books.

On 3/2/2012 3:51 PM, Kim Loftis wrote:
Thanks, Mayrie!!  That actually brings up a quick question I had.
If
it
has a copyright notice, but not an ISBN, what then?  I have just
such a
book that I'd love to scan and share, but didn't know how that
worked.

Thanks!

Warmest,
Kim

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From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 3:45 PM
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Better Way to Read Ebooks

Hi Kim,

Any hardcopy print book with a copyright is eligible for scanning
and addition to Bookshare!  Happy scanning!

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim
Loftis
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:53 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Better Way to Read Ebooks

Hi Monica,

LOL  I must agree about that accessible Kindle PC app... I own it,

and while I love being able to read a Kindle book, it's
exceedingly simplistic, particularly, as you say, for anything
where I might wish to search to reference something later.
*smile*

So, for purposes of Bookshare eligibility, if I find a book that
is available as a Kindle publication, is it still eligible to be
scanned for Bookshare account holders?  I believe the answer is
"Yes", but if I'm wrong,
I'd love to be corrected prior to scanning something that I
thought
was
eligible and turned out not to be.

Many thanks!

Kim

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From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 2:43 PM
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A Better Way to Read Ebooks

Hi Susan. You've asked a good question. I'll share what I know,
and maybe someone else can fill in some things if I miss
something.

Kindle books have a proprietary format and have DRM protecting
them. QRead can't open them because it is against American
copyright law for the developer to break the DRM to open the
file. We are allowed by law
to do that individually for personal use if a book isn't
accessible,
but doing that is a difficult process.

Books from Apple are different though. They are in Epub format. I

think they have some protection on them. I'm not sure because
iBooks is so accessible on the iPhone/iPad that I haven't tried
opening them in anything else. QRead just came out today, and I
haven't experimented with my books from Apple yet.

Kindle books are accessible if you use the Kindle for PC with the

accessibility plugin provided by Amazon. It's a clunky reader at
best, especially for reading nonfiction and textbooks. Still, we
can use it,
and it does work. I'd love it if QRead could legally open Kindle
books. For now, that is not possible due to how Amazon puts DRM
on
their books.

--
Monica Willyard
Visit my GoodReads book shelf at
http://www.goodreads.com/plumlipstick

On 03/02/2012, Susan Lumpkin <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Monica,

I'll probably give you your laugh for the day!  Are Kindle or
books from the Apple bookstore considered to be a proprietary
format or are they E-pub books? Hope you're not laughing too
much!

Susan (smiling)

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica

Willyard
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:14 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] A Better Way to Read Ebooks

Hi everyone. I've seen many questions from blind people on this
list about how they can read different formats of ebooks
accessibly and how they can get the most from Bookshare's own
books. We've talked about how we're tired of running around
trying to figure out how to read various types of ebooks,
feeling like we want to pull our hair out. I found something new

today, and I think it will help Bookshare's users and blind
volunteers. Check out http://q-continuum.net/qread/ for a better

way to do things. For the first time, we have a program that can

read pdf, epub, Bookshare, text, and other types of books with
one easy to use interface. The program is called QRead, and it's

on sale for $20 till CSUN ends. There is a free demo version
that loads 30 percent of your book so you can see how it works.

One of the features I like best is the ability to keep your
place in books when you shut down the program. I also like that
it can unzip daisy books from Bookshare on the fly, letting you
start reading immediately without thinking about where to unzip
your book.

I don't work for the developer or anything. I'm just really
excited to have one interface, one reader for the PC instead of
trying to sort out which program will open a particular type of
book. It's worth trying if you want better options for handling
ebooks.

--
Monica Willyard
Visit my GoodReads book shelf at
http://www.goodreads.com/plumlipstick
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