I appreciate your comment and what it adds to this discussion.
You are 100% correct, a small noiseless vessel is not much of a
disturbance...in passing. A persistent human presence in that stretch of river
for extended periods of time is a disturbance.
My point is that the birds have moved. Last year was the first successful year,
previous attempts were unsuccessful. This is why I'm concerned.
Instead of wondering why a new bird moved in, we should be asking why they
moved their nest.
My main concern is the continued success of KY's only cliff nesting Peregrines.
As for observations reported to government/concerned agencies, most would want
to know the frequency and duration of nest site visits to add context to notes
on behavior.
Ben Leffew
Preserve Manager
Shaker Village of Pleasant Hill INC
3501 Lexington Rd
Harrodsburg, KY 40330
Office: 859-734-1569
Cell: 859-612-2492
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer snyder [mailto:jjamarsnyder@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 4:43 PM
To: Ben Leffew
Cc: Bird KY
Subject: Re: [birdky] Re: Peregrine Falcon nest drama
Ben et al,
I do not have any concerns regarding the way in which the Peregrines are being
observed.
As for the remoteness of the cliff- it must be accessed by boat and if you are
able to easily motor on by to go trout fishing then logically I would think a
kayaker in a small, noiseless vessel would be much less disturbing.
The Peregrines have chosen their nesting site and have been successful for
several years there. IF THEY WERE DISTURBED AT ALL THEN SURELY THEY WOULD MOVE.
I am slightly mystified by your emails and why you would have concern after
years of respectful, and helpful observations submitted to not only KY F&W but
other concerned organizations.
Jennifer Snyder
Hardin County
Sent from my iPhone
On May 14, 2018, at 13:42, Ben Leffew <bleffew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thank you for your comment.
I live and work in the area and have been past the nest site on my way to
fish for trout further upstream.
To get to the nest site is about a 4-5 mile paddle or about 15 min by
motorboat. From the nest down to the river is within 100-150 meters. Even in
passing I've noticed the adults vocalizing and flying off the nest. Once the
adults start flying around, the nest site is not hard to find.
Any human presence along the cliff is a disturbance to the birds. The adults
may have hatched and fledged from noisy manmade structures, but they did not
choose a bridge or power station to nest...they chose a remote spot along a
natural cliff line.
Standard scientific monitoring protocol only takes three short-duration site
visits. One to check for nesting activity, one to check for chicks, and one
to check for fledges. Anything more should be considered excessive and
detrimental to the well-being of this nest site.
I am open to having a discussion about questions/concerns regarding the cliff
nesting falcons.
Ben
Ben Leffew
Preserve Manager
Shaker Village of Pleasant Hill INC
3501 Lexington Rd
Harrodsburg, KY 40330
Office: 859-734-1569
Cell: 859-612-2492
-----Original Message-----
From: jjamarsnyder@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:jjamarsnyder@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 6:43 PM
To: Ben Leffew; Bird KY
Subject: Re: [birdky] Re: Peregrine Falcon nest drama
My understanding is that this nest is extremely difficult to see and only
seen by kayak.
Jennifer
On May 10, 2018, at 17:35, Ben Leffew <bleffew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Could the persistent human presence at the nest sight be an explanation for
the falcons switching to a new nest site? I realize the appeal of wanting to
keep a close eye on KY's only natural cliff nesting peregrines, but should
we ask how much is too much?
Shouldn't we be giving them as much space as possible to ensure they continue
to nest at this site?
Ben Leffew
Mercer County
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Tina Nauman
<tinanauman@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:tinanauman@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
For ease of time I'm going to link to the Peregrine page. There is much drama
as we try and sort out why they are at a new nest site, Boone has not been
seen in almost 2 weeks, there is an intruder Peregrine hanging around but not
interacting with Dee who is trying to keep up with the needs of 3 eyasses.
I'll post cute baby photos as soon as I can but they all have bulging crops,
are active and appear healthy.
https://www.facebook.com/BooneDixie/
Tina Nauman
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