Feeders Supply Louisville & So. IN. has
VERY GOOD "Cardinal Blend" no corn mixed seed 40# or 20# bags ( Part profits go
to Beckham Bird Club,) & 5 or 10# Thistle for Finches, we use. Excellent
Quality for 10+ years, rarely a stem, or odd corn kernal. Also have just
Sunflower, but we get ours mixed in Cardinal Blend...
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 21:59, Greg Walker<gregory.l.walker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Several months ago I mentioned to my dad that the black oil sunflower I was
buying seemed unusually grungy. He is in Terre Haute, IN (about 3 hours from
Louisville), and said he was having the exact same experience, so another data
point supporting that this seems to be a systemic issue. Interesting to learn
how the seed market works. I had no idea!
Greg WalkerLouisville
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:41 PM <brainard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Damien and all,
The days of the local seed store are gone; 99% of the seed comes in on
semi-trucks from the Dakotas. No one cleans seed locally any more ... unless it
might be a mom and pop.
I agree that the "dirty" seed is unacceptable. Like others, I have to "dump
out" the contents of my cylindrical tube feeders once a week because there is
so much trash in the bottom that seeds quit being accessible to the birds. If
you don't do this, the stuff in the bottom spoils. I also have a feeder that
has to have a pipe cleaner stuck into the bottom ports to clean the find
"dusty" debris away that has become caked in the bottom, also not allowing seed
to come out the bottom ports.
We are not talking about small pieces of stem. Those have always been something
of an issue in black oil seed because the pieces are near to the same size and
weight of the seeds themselves. Screens and fans are used to clean debris out
and for whatever reason it simply isn't being done as well in more recent years.
The 2019 season seed I bought and am still feeding was the dirtiest I'd ever
bought and the tales of folks who are talking about seed from this year's crop
are echoing that issue.
bpb, Louisville
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From: tnbarredowl@xxxxxxx
Sent: Jan 28, 2021 1:17 PM
To: kytysons9152@xxxxxxxxx, brainard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [birdky] Re: Black Oil Sunflower seeds
I've been a bit hesitant to jump in on the sunflower seed discussion, but have
finally decided to put in my two cents. My sister formerly owned a seed store
and they had a cleaner in their operations. The only difference in sunflower
seed without stalks, etc. and what we currently buy would be cost. The birds
couldn't care less. They have no problem picking through the trash and finding
the seeds. It does mean more debris for us to clean up later, but it makes
decent compost. I actually spread it over an area near my garden and the
uneaten seeds grow into free bird seed the next summer. If the producers had to
clean the seeds better, it adds more labor (more cost). I currently pay $14
for a 40 lb bag. I really wouldn't want to pay $20-25 just to have less trash.
My birds still love the "dirty" food. Let's not start too big a campaign to get
clean seeds. We might not be able to afford to feed birds if they respond to
our requests.
Damien Simbeck
Killen AL
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On Thursday, January 28, 2021 Stephen Tyson <kytysons9152@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
We haven’t had dust problems, but are always astounded at the level of sticks
and debris, in sunflower seed, regardless of the store where it’s purchased. I
have seen what modern harvesting equipment is capable of, by looking in bins of
corn, soy beans, or wheat (directly from the field), and I have never seen this
level of debris contamination. The cynic in me had concluded that they don’t
have to remove it, so they don’t… because we’re willing to pay for it like
that. If people are willing to pay for trash, why bother? Frankly, I’d be
fine if they just labeled the bags honestly: “38 pounds of sunflower seed and 2
pounds of junk”.
Stephen Tyson, Schochoh
On Jan 28, 2021, at 8:08 AM, brainard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
I think this problem of "trash" in sunflower seed is systemic rather than
local. It is probably related to bird feeding being a secondary market for the
sunflower growers/suppliers and an overall tolerance for this debris in the
crushed oil market. As a grower of corn and soybeans, I know that what I send
to the grain terminals is discounted for the presence of "foreign matter," much
of which is beyond my control to exclude. At some point in the supply chain the
seed is supposed to be cleaned to a standard before it is packaged.
I believe over the years I have seen more and more foreign matter in the
sunflower seed product that I have bought. It probably would take the entire US
bird feeding market to cease purchasing seed to make the suppliers do a better
job of cleaning the seed. I think the best that can be done is that we complain
to everyone we can. Many retailers won't/don't understand the problem, so it
would probably be more productive to ask your retailer for the name of their
supplier and try to make a call or send an email to them.
I know there are specialty suppliers who market a "trash free" sunflower seed
that has been cleaned an extra time, but that stuff is really expensive.
bpb, Louisville
-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Brand
Sent: Jan 27, 2021 7:32 PM
To: rosemary.meredith@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: renee.yetter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, brainard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, BIRDKY
Subject: [birdky] Re: Black Oil Sunflower seeds
I had the dust and debris problem with the last bag I bought from Lowe’s.
Perhaps the same suppliers are supplying all of these stores.
Barbara BrandSent from my iPhone
On Jan 27, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Meredith, Rosemary L (Elizabethtown)
<rosemary.meredith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’ve had the same issue back in late summer. Had to remove feeders and clean
again to get the dust removed it was blocking the openings! My sister also has
gotten a dirty bag from a different TSC then me. Rosemary Meredith LaRue Co.
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On Jan 27, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Renee Yetter <renee.yetter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I was interested to see this discussion, but for a different reason. Our
tractor supply does not seem to have had shortages, though maybe I missed that
just based on timing, but 3 or the last 4 bags we have purchased we full, and I
mean FULL of dust and debris. We actually had to put it through a sieve
because there was so much dust/debris mixed in with the seeds.
It’s a hazard for the person filling the feeders (we’ve had to wear masks), and
the insides of the tube feeders were coated with dust/debris. Anyone else
having that issues?
Renee B. Yetter
Williamsburg, KY 40769
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Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 8:23 AM
To: BIRDKY <birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [birdky] Re: Black Oil Sunflower seeds
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I obtain seed in Louisville from Lewis Seed Co. They supply seed to many
retailers in the Louisville area.
The owner told me this week that the reason for some shortages in supply is
simply that people are feeding birds more this year. As is being seen by home
improvement stores and animal shelters, in this year of Covid, many families
have reverted back to occupying themselves at home, including entertaining
themselves by feeding birds.
He said there *could* be some issues due to what freight is being hauled by
trucking companies, but that the supply is fine. Late last year the "new" (i.e.
2020) crop of sunflower seed was hi priced due to the demand but that it has
settled back down now.
In most years the price of black oil seed is apparently most closely related to
the oil content of the crop. When good weather conditions result in a crop with
high oil content, there is higher demand from the crushed sunflower seed oil
market and the price is higher. When the crop is affected negatively by poor
weather, we who feed birds reap the benefit of slightly lower prices.
bpb, Louisvile
-----Original Message-----
From: linda craiger
Sent: Jan 26, 2021 2:27 PM
To: "birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Subject: [birdky] Black Oil Sunflower seeds
I typically purchase Black Oil Sunflower seeds from Tractor Supply in Glasgow.
They were out today & said do not know when they will get more in due to a
supplier issue. Anyone else finding sunflower seeds to be in short supply?
Linda Craiger/ Glasgow
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