There have been several e-mail exchanges regarding extinction measurements and photometry through or between clouds. The point to be emphasized is that DIFFERENTIAL measurements can be made under less than ideal conditions. Good, single-channel photometry (pointing at one star with one filter at a time) often can be obtained be cumulus clouds -- provided the data are taken quickly enough to verify the short-term conditions are "photometric". Thin cirrus can be a big problem in this case. On the other hand, CCD work can continue under relatively poor conditions -- provided there are several comparison stars in the field of view (i.e., on the same image). I have gotten 0.005 mag precision using differential photometry through cirrus with 1+ magnitude of extinction. You just have to be very careful and use *** several *** simultaneous check stars. Hence, this technique favors the fainter stars, where more comparisons are available. -- Paul Schmidtke, ASU -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.