Thanks Brian, The infrared is certainly interesting. I'll try the multiple stars techniques next change i get. Looks like the next few days will be cloudy, even some possible rain. Jeff At 13:41 -0700 2/27/06, Brian Skiff wrote: >>> Are you following a star >>> from the meridian down to higher airmass? > >>> Yes! > > OK, your negative extinction then almost certainly results from >the transparency changing during the interval. Since the airmass >associated from the trough Thursday/Friday was receding during >Friday evening, there's good reason to think this is what was >going on. At J and H, you'll be affected more directly by water-vapor >changes as well as just plain clouds because of the way the >atmospheric 'windows' at these wavelengths change shape as a function >of, say, precipitable water-vapor. > Instead of following just one star from high to low (or the >reverse), you can avoid the temporal changes in extinction by >measuring several stars in as short a time as possible at both >high and low airmass. If you get negative extinction from this >procedure, then it's simply cloudy. Presumably you have some list >of bright JHK standard stars you can use for doing the extinction. > ...it occurs to me that the patchy nature of extinction at the >near-IR wavelengths may cause it to come out with a negative value >even if it's "clear" in the usual meaning of this term. This might >be a good question to ask on the AAVSO photometry discussion list, >for instance. > >\Brian -- Jeff Hopkins HPO SOFT http://www.hposoft.com/Astro/astro.html Hopkins Phoenix Observatory 7812 West Clayton Drive Phoenix, Arizona 85033-2439 U.S.A. www.hposoft.com -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.