Grand Canyon Star Party - DAY THREE - Learn As We Go Location: Grand Canyon Visitor Center, South Rim of Grand Canyon, AZ, about 340 miles north of home in Tucson, about 7000 ft elevation Weather: 70s at Noon, 60s at sunset, low 40s when we quit at 11 PM. Clear skies for afternoon and evening, virtually dead calm after sunset. Seeing and Transparency: Again improved from the first night, but a bit soft. The surface calm seems to extend upward. The cool temperatures at sunset reduces the initial upper turbulence; focus at my maximum non-barlowed powers still are easily achieved. Equipment: 18â?? f/5 2286mm Teeter Telescope newtonian truss dob, Sky Commander DSCs 10" Meade SCT on Atlas EQ-G mount 60mm Lunt LS60THa/B600 on Atlas EQ-G MOUN5 A very nice night indeed. I again set up the solar scope around 5:30, then tried to calm all the ruffled feathers over attempts to better organize the group setup. Here at the Visitor Center we have approximately 11,400 square feet at our disposal. At Yavapai, we had 8,600. We have plenty of space! However, the space is defined by 12 tour bus sized parking lanes, rather than the 28 short car spaces previously. There is a natural tendency to sprawl three telescopes to a lane, and some setups look like a campsite. This is blocking visitor flow in places, and the visitors have been quite vocal to us at the north end about the chaos. So, we suggested to people that they mimic Yavapai and set their creature comforts up along the entry/exit lane edges, with scopes inward and trying to keep a bit of walking space down the middle like a county fair midway. Well, despite VOCAL griping by three of the astronomers, it worked fantastically at the north end. Returning visitors were remarking on how they had no trouble (well, once they got past Dennis Young's crowd magnet 28") transiting the area. Although the total crowd count was a bit less, our count at the north end was four times the level of nights one and two. As a couple of us remarked, this is not the All Arizona Star Party campground for 48 hours of astronomy; this is a three hour visitor surge. It does not need to be as complete a setup as a personal observing night in the desert. That's my soapbox, anyway. George Barber did a very entertaining talk on stellar characteristics called What Kind Of Star. He kept the time just right. LOTS of questions from the audience, well answered. I had taken down the solar setup and let granddaughter Jessica set up the 10" SCT while I unshrouded the 18" Teeter. When I got back to the setup, Jessica had Saturn in the SCT and her sister Karina, 14, had collimated the 18" by herself based on how they do their 10" dob newt at home, and was already showing Abireo. Both were working the crowd like pros. I moved it on over to the Ring while Karina started telling the Planetary Nebula story. Later we did some hops to other objects, and Karina only had to hear me introduce an object once to pick up the thread. Paul Lorenz nearby was enthusiastically showing M51 and the supernova. Between Paul and Karina, the crowd picked up the enthusiasm and it was about an hour of total excitement and enjoyment. This night, Paul and Karina put the party in star party! It has been extremely gratifying to see how Jessica and Karina have taken to the public outreach. And the astronomy, and operating the equipment. There is a new generation of astronomers coming! Jim O'Connor South Rim Coordinator Grand Canyon Star Party Grand Canyon Cell Phone: 520-405-6551 gcsp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.