Jim, KOFA is DARK, being 100+mi west of Phoenix, and the dirt road is well-maintained. KOFA is 1 hr 45 min from my house in Glendale. It would be about the same for EVAC people living on the east side, I imagine. I think SAC has only been there once, when Sentinel was closed several months ago. We set up on the east side of the road in a HUGE open area, but Steve Coe found a better spot on the right (west) about .10 miles further south. It is a nice location, for sure. I would like to head out there, but I can only stay one night (tonight). If not, I suppose Vekol might do. Matt -- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. See this message's header if you want info about unsubscribing or the list's archive. This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.