This Saturday Gil Jones graciously allowed Dean Salman, Bill Lofquist and myself to setup in his Three Buttes Observatory (http://www.threebuttes.com). I do mean IN his observatory, the roll-off is huge, room for our three scopes all set for CCD with tables and computers as well as Gil's 12.5" RC on an AP CM1200 and it's associated computer gear. Well, all CCD except Bill who was shooting film, but I think we were beginning to infect him as he was asking about good starter CCD's by the end of the night. Talk about luxury... power, concrete floor, no dust, dark skies, a wall to block the breeze and good company. Sunset showed thin cirrus across most of the sky. The weather service promised clearing and they were correct, by 2300 the sky had mostly cleared and by 0100 there wasn't a wisp to be seen except on the horizons to the far south or north. The view through the 12.5" at Jupiter was spectacular with plenty of detail. Almost as good as Mars the next morning, maybe only 12' but there were polar caps and plenty of albedo features as well as the dark feature just at the margin of the cap that someone here mentioned recently. Looking forward to opposition! See Gil's site for his webcam Jupiter and Mars shots taken that night to see what we saw in the eyepiece. Spent the night shooting away with a new camera, something I have been working on for the last few months. Based on one of the new E2V charge multiplication chips, I needed to "try" it out under real world conditions. So a few good targets, M51, M101, M22, Veil, B86, NGC6522, NGC6357 and others. Even shot at the much more difficult LeoII dwarf galaxy to see what the new camera could do. Still working on the results, only 260Mb of data for the night, but then it is a small 512x512 array. A good night! and thanks Gil! Andrew -- Andrew Cooper Tucson, AZ mailto:acooper@xxxxxxxxx http://www.whitethornhouse.com -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.