At 13:48 -0700 01/01/2004, Brian Skiff wrote in part: >We don't get that kind of weather around here! When I started >this 25 years ago, I decided that rather than trying to distinguish >various levels of cloudy nights, the thing of real interest were >the genuinely clear nights from start to finish. So for instance, >if a snowstorm clears out an hour after dusk, that night is not what >I call a 'photometric' night, but a 'partial' one, though the remaining >hours go into the total clear-hours tally. Thanks Brian, Back in the early 80's I had a request for observations of 22 VULPECULAE. The window for making measurements was narrow. I believe it was during the summer months (August in particular). Almost every night was clouded with lots of thunderstorms around. What I did was just waited until I had an opening between clouds. I found the readings amazingly steady. In fact I got more than one set of good observations with lightning flashing all around me. I have found the thin cirrus, sometimes not even visible, can defeat photometric observations as the extinction varies greatly over a short period and even differential measurements become worthless. Perhaps CCD photometry that had the comparison and program stars in the same field would still work as the data would have been taken at the same time. For single channel photometry, it's time for bed. >This is obviously a >conservative reckoning, but in order to do this indefinitely the >amount of work involved has to be minimal---I can't be around recording >the state of sky hourly every night. > >\Brian I figured you had this automated. Coming up with that information manually is a significant job. My only thought were regarding the photometric nights. As even you noted some of those non-photometric nights are indeed very photometric. Jeff -- Jeff Hopkins HPO SOFT ********************************************************* Small minds speak about people * Average minds speak of events ************ Great minds speak of ideas! **************** ********************************************************* Phoenix, Arizona Atlanta, Georgia 7812 West Clayton Drive 12170 Boxwood Circle Phoenix, AZ 85033-2439 U.S.A. Alpharetta, GA 30005 U.S.A. (623) 849-5889 (Fax) (770) 619-3322 (Phone/Fax) www.hposoft.com dataman.home.mindspring.com 4th Dimension Developer FileMaker Pro Expert BASIC/C/C++ Programmer/Web Site Developer -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.