atw: Re: austechwriter Digest V3 #48

  • From: Graeme Foster <gfs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:13:48 +1100

Maybe receival doesn't crack a mention because of the word 'receipt'. 
It is surely the nominalisation of receive.

Graeme Foster

On 22/02/2005, at 6:03 PM, FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:

> austechwriter Digest  Mon, 21 Feb 2005        Volume: 03  Issue: 048
>
> In This Issue:
>               Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>               Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>               Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>               Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>               Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>               Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>               Re: Multi-purpose documents
>               OT sorta - bigpond.net.au email off grid?
>               Re: OT sorta - bigpond.net.au email off grid?
>               Receival  - could someone tell the Mac Online
>               Re: OT sorta - bigpond.net.au email off grid?
>               Westies tonight Commercial Hotel Parramatta
>               LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23rd)
>               Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night
>               Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23r
>               Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23r
>               Test: Please delete... Lorem ipsum dolor... lady, three whit
>               Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night
>               OT: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23r
>               Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23r
>               Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>               Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:21:32 +1100 (EST)
> From: Terry D <morgan4four@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>
> Can anyone out there with a Macquarie dictionary to
> hand tell me if it includes 'receival'. It's not in
> the Webster and Oxford I have access to.
>
> Many thanks,
> Terry
>
> Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
> http://au.movies.yahoo.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:39:52 +0800
> From: "Rhonda Bracey" <Rhonda.Bracey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> No - "receipt" and "receivable" but no "receival" (Macquarie 3rd
> edition, p1777)
>
> Rhonda
>
>
> Rhonda Bracey
> rhonda.bracey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> http://www.cybertext.com.au
> AuthorIT Certified Consultant
> -----Original Message-----
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry D
> Sent: Monday, 21 February 2005 3:31 PM
> To: ATW
> Subject: atw: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>
> Can anyone out there with a Macquarie dictionary to hand tell me if it
> includes 'receival'. It's not in the Webster and Oxford I have access
> to.
>
> Many thanks,
> Terry
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Warren Lewington" <wjlewington@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:50:33 +1100
>
> I can tomorrow.
> I think you can access an on-line version?
> Ring me on 0408 612 752 in the morning and I can tell you...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry D
> Sent: Monday, 21 February 2005 6:22 PM
> To: ATW
> Subject: atw: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>
>
> Can anyone out there with a Macquarie dictionary to
> hand tell me if it includes 'receival'. It's not in
> the Webster and Oxford I have access to.
>
> Many thanks,
> Terry
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 18:59:35 +1100
> From: Michael Edward Granat <megranat@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>
> Not in the Collins Aussie English Big Fat Hardcover one, Terry (D).
>
> Are you sure that someone hasn't mistyped receivable?
> (Incorrectly saved to the custom dictionary file?)
>
> Have you tried <http://www.onelook.com/>.
>
> If you can't find it there, you can't find it anywhere.
> It's up to you, New Word, New Word!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Micky G.
>
> At 18:21 21/2/2005, you wrote:
>> Can anyone out there with a Macquarie dictionary to
>> hand tell me if it includes 'receival'. It's not in
>> the Webster and Oxford I have access to.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Terry
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:27:25 +1100 (EST)
> From: Terry D <morgan4four@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>
> <Rhonda wrote:>
> No - "receipt" and "receivable" but no "receival"
> (Macquarie 3rd edition, p1777)
> ===
> Thanks to Rhonda, Michael G and Warren L.
>
> It's in a doc I'm updating. They include a 'Receival
> Inspection' of the goods.
>
> I did a google and found some 30k hits. Almost all of
> the early hits are Australian and tend to deal with
> grain and/or shipping. Maybe we Aussies have invented
> a new word. And as I recall, the grain receival bins
> were one of the biggest employers of vacation students
> not so long ago so it's probably fairly well accepted
> here.
>
> I'll change the term so our OS clients can't criticise
> our spelling.
>
> Cheers,
> Terry
>
> Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
> http://au.movies.yahoo.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Michael Lewis" <mlewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:02:02 +1100
>
> Terry D:
>
>> Thanks to Rhonda, Michael G and Warren L.
>>
>> It's in a doc I'm updating. They include a 'Receival
>> Inspection' of the goods.
>>
>> I did a google and found some 30k hits. Almost all of
>> the early hits are Australian and tend to deal with
>> grain and/or shipping. Maybe we Aussies have invented
>> a new word. And as I recall, the grain receival bins
>> were one of the biggest employers of vacation students
>> not so long ago so it's probably fairly well accepted
>> here.
>>
>> I'll change the term so our OS clients can't criticise
>> our spelling.
>
> Don't be too hasty. The word is well attested; the OED dates it to 
> 1637.
> It's perfectly well formed, by analogy with refusal, rebuttal, etc. I'm
> sufficiently familiar with it that I was surprised by the question. So 
> it's
> certainly not an Australian coinage. I'm surprised that it doesn't 
> appear in
> the Macquarie Dictionary (though I don't have my own copy handy, and 
> I'm
> wondering whether other respondents have checked the Big Mac or merely 
> one
> of the smaller offspring).
>
>
> Michael Lewis
> -------------------
> Brandle Pty Limited
> Sydney, Australia
> -------------------
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Howard Silcock" <howard.silcock@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Multi-purpose documents
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 23:24:29 +1100
>
> Thank you to those who responded to my inquiry, both on- and off-line. 
> I've
> been off-line all day, so couldn't follow the discussion till now.
>
> The responses are making me doubt seriously whether my idea of using 
> Word
> 2003 is worth pursuing. But getting new software - whether FrameMaker 
> or
> AuthorIT - is definitely out of the question, particularly in the 
> timeframe
> available. I'll definitely look at Steve's Editioning Template (the 
> link on
> Techwr-L doesn't work, but I think I found another one that does) - 
> though
> the name makes me squirm ("editioning"? - I though "actioning" was bad
> enough! - but now I'm sure someone'll tell me a Google search turns up
> 423,564 instances).
>
> This is one of those cases where I'd love the chance to try out a new 
> toy,
> but may be forced to play safe and adopt a more boring approach.
>
> Howard
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 13:28:36 -0600
> From: MHT <runfox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: OT sorta - bigpond.net.au email off grid?
>
> Does anybody on the list use bigpond.net.au as their ISP?
> Is email on the bigpond.net.au currently inaccessible or being routed 
> down
> a cyber black hole??
> Regards,
> MNMary
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Jonn Mero" <jmero@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: OT sorta - bigpond.net.au email off grid?
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 07:02:54 -0800
>
> Yes and no, Mary.
> No apparent problems - AT THE MOMENT.
> Jonn
>
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>
> Does anybody on the list use bigpond.net.au as their ISP?
> Is email on the bigpond.net.au currently inaccessible or being routed
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> Regards,
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> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Receival  - could someone tell the Mac Online
> From: bob.trussler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:54:22 +1100
>
> Surely we have justified this word by now.
> Could some one tell the Macquarie Online about receival.
>
> I cannot from this workplace.
> ___________
> Bob Trussler
>
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> From: "Paul Birkwood" <paul.birkwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: OT sorta - bigpond.net.au email off grid?
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:25:07 +1030
>
> Hi Mary,
> I use bigpond for personal mail. I wasn't able to download e-mail at 
> one
> point last week. So, there was definitely something happening with the
> e-mail. But, I haven't had problems recently.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis --
> -- Type: application/ms-tnef
> -- File: winmail.dat
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Steve Hudson" <adslyy5g@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Westies tonight Commercial Hotel Parramatta
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:21:07 +1100
>
> Subject: Style Guides
> Bring: Pen, paper, your in-house style guide, your favourite published 
> style
> guide(s)
>
> Steve Hudson
>
> Word Heretic, Sydney, Australia
> Tricky stuff with Word or words for you.
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Nancy Rose" <nancyrose73@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23rd)
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 13:57:00 +1100
>
> LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23rd)
>
> Topic? Meetings - keep them short, make them effective.
>
> Where? Sydney Mechanics School of Arts, Level 1, 280 Pitt Street 
> (between
> Park and Bathurst).
> Time?  6 to 8 pm.
>
> How to book? Email info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, voicemail 82507056, fax 
> 92520441
>
> To a lot of us, workplace meetings are a bane. They can be an 
> effective way
> of communicating within the organisation - although often they are 
> not. They
> can make good use of everyone's time and talent - or be wasters of 
> both.
>
> As a technical writer, you may find that you are expected at least to 
> know
> how to take minutes at a meeting, and it'll be a useful part of your 
> skills
> armoury if you can.
>
> We will be showing the John Cleese film 'Meetings, Bloody Meetings', 
> after
> which Brian Clarke will outline the function and structure of meetings 
> from
> a legal point of view and along the way giving hints on how to avoid 
> waste.
>
> Brian taught Organisational Behaviour and Corporate Strategy at the
> University of Warwick, The City University, London Business School, 
> Wolsey
> Hall (Oxford) and the UTS. He has held the roles of president, 
> chairman,
> secretary and treasurer in a wide range of private organisations.
>
> Price? $15 members who book, $20 for others. (To cover rentals and
> refreshments.)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:23:51 +1100
> From: "Allan Charlton" <Allan.Charlton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night
>
> The ASTC announcement said
>
>> As a technical writer, you may find that you are expected
>> at least to know how to take minutes at a meeting, and
>> it'll be a useful part of your skills armoury if you can.
>
> No.  Absolutely not.  I make my own notes, and others are welcome to
> borrow them.  But I'm not a secretary.  That's a completely different
> skill set.
>
> I wouldn't feel happy about a secretary taking on a technical
> documentation task on the basis of good typing skills, and I doubt that
> secretaries feel happy about technical writers taking secretarial work.
>
> Some of my colleagues occasionally borrow my meeting notes, and I don't
> mind at all.  But they are *my* notes, concerned with my interest in 
> the
> meeting's subject matter.  In the meetings I go to, the chairman 
> usually
> makes sufficient notes to build minutes from.  But then, I'm a simple
> technical soul, and I don't go to high-falutin' events like board
> meetings 'n' stuff.
>
> I'm going to Westies tonight though, and Steve and I will discuss style
> guides.  My bit will be brief, and I'm sure Steve will be brief too,
> because we all want a good discussion.  None of us wants to hear a
> monologue.
>
> Come along to Westies!
> Commercial Hotel, opposite the Parramatta railway station.
> If you can't find the place, call 0413 022 056 and I'll try to help.
> If you live in Melbourne, you've got just enough time to get on a plane
> and get up here.
>
> Allan
>
>
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>
> From: Andrea Tappe <Andrea.Tappe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23rd
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:54:17 +1100
>
>
> Errr..... gas leak? Tullamarine? Don't say that you guys haven't heard 
> about
> the Most Exciting Event in Melbourne History?
>
> <snip>If you live in Melbourne, you've got just enough time to get on a
> plane and get up here.</snip>
>
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> From: "Nancy Rose" <nancyrose73@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23rd)
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:15:50 +1100
>
>
> Well, I am doing my darndest to attend both meetings. They are both
> supported (e.g. advertised) by the ASTC NSW and are both worthy topics 
> of
> discussion.
>
> Perhaps the wording in the meeting reminder indicated that we may have 
> to
> take minutes because we are Technical Authors (rather than just 
> because) and
> I guess that perhaps that may cause an annoyance? So, to clarify by 
> using my
> own situation...
>
> I am not a secretary nor would I suggest that I have all the 
> secretarial
> skills; however, as part of my role as a Tech. Writer I do 
> occasionally run
> projects and, therefore, meetings. Just as I am required to run 
> meetings, I
> am also (occassionally) required to take minutes (usually voluntarily 
> - in
> my organisation we don't have a lot of secretaries and therefore people
> throughout the hierarchy takes turns with the minutes and other meeting
> roles - 'come to my meeting and you're likely to be given a job to 
> do'). I
> don't attend many board meetings either but I do attend meetings.
>
> I believe that understanding how meetings should run, which includes 
> knowing
> how to take minutes, is a valuable tool to have no matter what type of
> employment. In my role, as a Tech. Writer, I do use these skills in 
> meetings
> and in workshops that I run.
>
> I also use meeting skills in volunteer committees outside of the 
> workplace.
> We don't have the benefit of a secretary but we get through. What else 
> would
> happen in a volunteer organisation or committee, particularly one 
> where you
> are required to take proper notes and follow correct meeting 
> procedures?
>
> I am amost interested in both topics - that is because they BOTH 
> relate to
> what I do both at work and in my outside-of-work life.
>
> I personally find these ASTC get togethers give me the opportunity to 
> learn
> some new skills and to catch up with others who work in the same 
> general
> field and exchange ideas. It's never about just sitting and listening 
> for an
> hour. So, I really look forward to meeting those of you who choose to 
> attend
> either (or both) of these meetings :-)
>
> Cheers
> Nancy
>
>
> From Allan...
> ************
> The ASTC announcement said
>
>> As a technical writer, you may find that you are expected
>> at least to know how to take minutes at a meeting, and
>> it'll be a useful part of your skills armoury if you can.
>
> No.  Absolutely not.  I make my own notes, and others are welcome to
> borrow them.  But I'm not a secretary.  That's a completely different
> skill set.
>
> I wouldn't feel happy about a secretary taking on a technical
> documentation task on the basis of good typing skills, and I doubt that
> secretaries feel happy about technical writers taking secretarial work.
>
> Some of my colleagues occasionally borrow my meeting notes, and I don't
> mind at all.  But they are *my* notes, concerned with my interest in 
> the
> meeting's subject matter.  In the meetings I go to, the chairman 
> usually
> makes sufficient notes to build minutes from.  But then, I'm a simple
> technical soul, and I don't go to high-falutin' events like board
> meetings 'n' stuff.
>
> I'm going to Westies tonight though, and Steve and I will discuss style
> guides.  My bit will be brief, and I'm sure Steve will be brief too,
> because we all want a good discussion.  None of us wants to hear a
> monologue.
>
> Come along to Westies!
> Commercial Hotel, opposite the Parramatta railway station.
> If you can't find the place, call 0413 022 056 and I'll try to help.
> If you live in Melbourne, you've got just enough time to get on a plane
> and get up here.
>
> Allan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Test: Please delete... Lorem ipsum dolor... lady, three white 
> leo
> From: Stuart Burnfield <sburnf@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:46:42 +0800
>
>
>
>
>
> I reinstalled Notes client--fingers crossed. If this worked, you can 
> read
> this.
> If it didn't work, well... 0KPiBjaGFuZ2U then Brian!
>
> Stuart
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:21:38 +1100
> From: "Allan Charlton" <Allan.Charlton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night
>
> Nancy said:
>> I believe that understanding how meetings should run,
>> which includes knowing how to take minutes, is a
>> valuable tool to have
>
>
> I apologise to any who misunderstood me.
> How to run meetings and maximise their benefit is rare, useful and
> valuable knowledge.  The John Cleese video will be fun and informative,
> and I'm sure Brian will be an interesting speaker and do justice to the
> topic.
>
> I was just railing against the unstated suggestion that some poor
> technical writer might be railroaded into secretarial duties because a
> perceived ability to make notes and type from them equates secretaries
> and technical writers.  Perish the thought.
>
> Secretaries type.
> Writers stare out windows in contemplation.   :-)
>
> Allan
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: Andrea Tappe <Andrea.Tappe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: OT: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23rd)
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:24:52 +1100
>
>
> <snip>Writers stare out windows in contemplation.   :-)</snip>
>
> Especially if they are waiting for a Virgin Blue flight from 
> Tullamarine ;-)
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>
> From: "Nancy Rose" <nancyrose73@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow night (23rd)
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:28:10 +1100
>
> Totally agree with you Allan. :-)
> I would hope that our employers would understand the difference skill 
> sets.
>
> Cheers
>
> Nancy
>
> From Allan...
> *************
>
> I was just railing against the unstated suggestion that some poor
> technical writer might be railroaded into secretarial duties because a
> perceived ability to make notes and type from them equates secretaries
> and technical writers.  Perish the thought.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:34:11 +1100
> From: Michael Edward Granat <megranat@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Macquarie dictionary -- receival
>
> Well there you go then, Michael (L)
>
> <http://www.onelook.com/> came back with:
> "Sorry, no dictionaries indexed in the selected category contain the
> word receival."
>
> That's where the human factor (yourself) should take a bow.
>
> Obviously wasn't in any medieval armour dictionaries.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Granat
> Write Ideas
>
> At 23:02 21/2/2005, you wrote:
>> Don't be too hasty. The word is well attested; the OED dates it to 
>> 1637.
>> It's perfectly well formed, by analogy with refusal, rebuttal, etc. 
>> I'm
>> sufficiently familiar with it that I was surprised by the question. 
>> So it's
>> certainly not an Australian coinage. I'm surprised that it doesn't 
>> appear in
>> the Macquarie Dictionary (though I don't have my own copy handy, and 
>> I'm
>> wondering whether other respondents have checked the Big Mac or 
>> merely one
>> of the smaller offspring).
>>
>>
>> Michael Lewis
>
> Michael E. Granat
> (QGTWD) (FOTROTWYB!)
> T/as Write Ideas
> E-mail: mailto:writeideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Without Prejudice.
> E&OE.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:31:45 +1100
> From: Michael Edward Granat <megranat@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: LAST CALLS for the ASTC(NSW) meeting tomorrow
>
> (NOW RATHER OT)
>
> That would be @ The Melbourne International Gasport, right Andrea (T).
>
> The Vermin Blue terminal (what a strangely appropriate word) which was
> the old Ansett one, is having a horrid time of it and poor Vermin is 
> being
> blamed for something that was pretty much foisted on them.
>
> Still, at least they could have offered the 15,000 people waiting out 
> on the
> grass for a flight a cuppa and a sandwich.
>
> (Or would they rather try and flog Sir Richard Chutney's book to a 
> truly
> captive audience, like they do on their buses in the sky.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Micky G.
>
> At 14:54 22/2/2005, you wrote:
>
>> Errr..... gas leak? Tullamarine? Don't say that you guys haven't 
>> heard about
>> the Most Exciting Event in Melbourne History?
>>
>> <snip>If you live in Melbourne, you've got just enough time to get on 
>> a
>> plane and get up here.</snip>
>>
>
> Michael E. Granat
> (QGTWD) (FOTROTWYB!)
> T/as Write Ideas
> E-mail: mailto:writeideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Web: <http://home.pacific.net.au/~megranat/>
> Without Prejudice.
> E&OE.
>
>
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>
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