Hi Roland! I couldn't agree with you more! (regarding facing reality!) I have two of the shirts he has been purchasing previously and they are as thin as tissue paper! I have a meeting with him tomorrow and I am taking the L420 sample with me so he will be able to compare the two. I think it will be clear to him that he needs to step up the quality. Thanks for your input Roland! Barbara phone: 760-331-7761 email: AvalonLogoWear@xxxxxxx web: www.avalonlogowear.com -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 9:18 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: low cost cotton/poly polo's I'd say it's time for the customer to face reality...unless he can get someone down to the mill in Mexico and legally bring the goods back here, you are not going to be able to supply them. There are several companies that will 'custom dye' fabric for shirts, but unless you are talking a huge quantity $5 per might get you one sleeve and a pocket... If you haven't found it by now, and you've mentioned all the major suppliers I think that any of us would recommend...then show the customer what you CAN get and go from there. I hope you aren't underselling the job...or he isn't being really cheap... a $5 polo (and do you mean net cost or marked up?) is probably going to be almost see-through, lightweight, not much more than a teeshirt with a collar and buttons! I have yet to have any problem selling any polo shirt with screenprinting or embroidery for less than $18-20 to the customer. And that includes jobs from 12 to 50 at a time. Even with teeshirts and sweatshirts I run into colors no longer available all the time. Try finding the limegreen bright safety teeshirts in the fall...impossible! So the customer has to realize we can't be magicians and create a miracle every time. Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list =========================================================== =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================