Thermoflex is from Specialty materials and sold by many suppliers. Stahls and the others (I use them also) are a much thicker vinyl-I'd guess 6 mil? but for soccer, football- looks good. Specialty Materials have many different types-you need to match to what you are imprinting on. I've used the reflectives, foils, holographic, etc. and some of them are NOT good for multiple hits with the heater-you will actually cook the holographic or chrome look right off it. Takes practice! Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================