Herb, Thanks for the tips. The needle holder was stuck fast in the grabber. Id be darned if I know how that happened. I had to remove the needle holder release the shaft reinstall and restart then design after turning the machine off and on.. In my book another reason why the grabber should be behind the needles. No luck yet with needle 16 still breaking threads. I guess I will try the soap and warm water Anand Try this, Push the Emergency Stop button, then twist it to re-engage. The needle should come back up and you should be able to resume. Herb =========================================================== =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================