This message was posted by HERB on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/319.html#000002 Hoop the cap first. Then measure from the center seam back to the side where you want this part of the design. Go back to design shop and set your grid to match the measurement from the cap. Now you know where to put this part of the design. You need to treat the front and side as seperate entities in DS, position each one independently so to speak. When you bring this in to OS DO NOT center the design. Hope this is some help. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================