[amayausers] Re: Jeff - Re: Lock/Trim ?
- From: "Jeff Banks" <banksje@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:19:58 -0700
Hi Wendy,
To try and give an example, try this... use BLOCK lettering, (the default)
and make a 1" upper case I. Then go to View and Fit Window. On my computer
with a 17" monitor and the screen set to 1024 X 768 I do not need to Zoom in
as I can see all the stitches pretty clearly.
On the right hand side, click on the Stitches TAB so the individual
stitches are shown in the list, click on one of the stitches in the list so
it highlighted, then use the Down Arrow key on the keyboard and each time
you press it the display will move down 1 stitch. The stitch on the screen
will have a Helicopter of Cross on it. Keep pressing the down arrow key and
each time you press it to watch the actual stitching in the letter. As it
gets toward the bottom or end of the letter, notice there are some stitches
that go toward the inside about half of the way to the center of the column,
and then back and forth on each other. These stitches are the Tie Out
stitches built into the alphabet.
Now, go back to the Project TAB on the right by clicking on it, then right
mouse click where it says Design, then go to Properties and then the View
TAB and click where it says "Show Tie Ins and Tie Offs" so it puts a check
mark in the box. This turns ON the ability for the software to display the
tie stitches that the software can add. Then go to the Lock/Trim TAB and
turn on Tie In and Tie Off stitches. Then click on the Stitches TAB on the
right again so the individual stitches are listed. Do the same thing as you
did before, click on one of them so it is highlighted and use the down arrow
key to go down in the stitch list. When you are at the end of the letter,
notice the (TO) next to the last 3 stitches in the list. These are the added
Tie Out stitches, and notice they are added to the end of the ones already
in the letter. This makes for a knot in the sewing and can cause thread
breaks, miss-trims etc.
Hope this helps,,
Jeff Banks
Melco Embroidery Systems
----- Original Message -----
From: "Itchin To Stitch" <itchin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 12:05 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Jeff - Re: Lock/Trim ?
Jeff,
I'm curious about this too as I've had experienced raveling lettters and
then learned that DAK fonts are common culprits.
"The only one way to know for sure what is there is to zoom in and
look at the stitches at the end and at the beginning to find out"
Can you give an example of this? What exactly we are looking for when
zooming in and how far to zoom? I've seen TI and TO in the stitches tree
is this what you mean?
Wendy Solomonson
Itchin' To Stitch
Arlington, MN
(507)964-2224
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Banks" <banksje@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Lock/Trim ?
Hi Herb,
I need to jump in here so to make sure the information is 100% correct.
Not ALL Melco alphabets have lock stitches digitized in them. Garamond is
one of the DAK alphabets and none of the DAK alphas have lock stitches.
Also, if perhaps a Garamond TT font was used, it will not have tie
stitches either as no TT font will have them.
There are other exceptions as well. I know this is going to open a bucket
of worms, but I am willing to open it and as I am opening it, I will do
my best to answer all questions regarding the issue. This issue could
also be a reason Barbara is having problems on the nylon jackets.
As I stated, not all Melco alphabets have Lock Stitches in them. A good
example is all of the DAK alphabets.There are others as well. Now the
question comes up, "which others?". I honestly cannot tell you without
looking at the stitches they produce. It was never documented which ones
do and do not. All alphabets are hand digitized. Each was done by
different digitizers. Some used tie stitches some did not. Some used both
Tie In and Tie Out, some only used Tie Out. Some used one type of tie
stitch, some used others. The only one way to know for sure what is there
is to zoom in and look at the stitches at the end and at the beginning to
find out.
A problem that can happen is to turn on Tie stitches when the alphabet
already has them. This can put too many stitches at the end or beginning
of a letter. This can cause thread breaks, fray breaks, etc. Too many
stitches at the end of a letter where a trim is going to happen can cause
miss trims. The miss trims can then cause needle breaks as the move to
the next letter with the thread uncut will pull the needle to one side so
when it goes down it hits the needle plate or what ever and cause a
broken needle. This is perhaps some of Barbara's problems with broken
needles? Just a guess but a possibility? To many stitches in one spot
will cause the fray breaks Barbara described as well. Just a guess, but
the Full Block alphabet has tie stitches in it, so if the parameter to
add more is on in the file being used on the nylon jacket, this could be
adding to the problems she is having.
I am sure this is going to open the door for more questions. Please feel
free to ask them. Lettering, in particular small lettering, is a one of
the biggest problems to overcome.
Jeff Banks
Melco Embroidery Systems
----- Original Message -----
From: "HK Acree" <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 2:03 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Lock/Trim ?
Russell
Depends on whether you have converted your alphabets. There are lock
stitches digitized in all the Melco alphabets. If you have not converted
(removed) these you will not have any problems.
Herb
Royal Embroidery
----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Silva
To: Amayausers
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:16 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Lock/Trim ?
Hi all,
I did some lettering using the Garamond font from DesignShop and
under lock/Trim properties the lock setting was on none, am I going to
have a problem with stitches coming out, if so what can I do about it
before I give it to my customer? I usually have that setting to always by
default but somehow it got changed back.
Thanks in advance
Russell Silva
R. S. Embroidery
508-222-4433
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