This message was posted by Steve I on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/1/985.html#000011 I do hundreds of hats a month and most of the time I don't even use the clips. The only time I use the clips are when the cap is unstructured or I am sewing on the side of the cap. So if you are looking to save time, don't use the clips when you don't need them. Steve I. Trinity Embroidery =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================