[accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
- From: "arlene" <nedster6@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:58:25 -0800
This is why I don't do a free scan for viruses. Not unless I know
the source. I make for sure it's from a site like Microsoft. Even
there I'm careful in case the bad guy is there to having you in
General thinking it's safe.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Granados
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:40 AM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
I totally agree. That's part of the way these bad guys get machines is by
creating fake PC scanns that they claim return your PC to the state it was new.
The only time I've gotten a virus is when someone let one loose in a company
I was working for and they didn't have proper IPS installed. What I can tell
you though is coming from the service provider background, you'd be shocked how
many infected machines are out there. More frightening still is how many are
out there and their users don't even know.:(
----- Original Message -----
From: Ch.B.
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:37 AM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
Actually I have been virus free fort he last 10 years or so. The only times
I did catch something was because I was lazy and neglected some stuff.
I am actually one to clean install my three machines like once a year,
regardless. because no matter what you do as far as maintenance, there is
nothing as sweet and fast, as a freshely installed OS , smile
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From: accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:29 PM
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
No I agree with you I didn't think you were missing the point just wanted
to hammer home the gravity of the situation. I'm with you, I kill the bugs
right on the wire in hardware, none of this software based virus nonsense.
Different paths to the same end but I like handling all the virus and worm /
intrusion problems on the wire before my computer is even touched. That or
just don't run windows.;)
----- Original Message -----
From: Ch.B.
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:24 AM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
I KNOW that. This was just a tip since he did not seem that keen on just
going right ahead and nuking his system
Me personally I NEVER run a compromised system. I was merely pointing out
that a scan with his own software would be of no use, once something already
got thru on his pc.
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From: accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:11 PM
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
I'd have to disagree here a little.
These tools just don't reliably get rid of bugs. They do a pretty good
job of keeping them out and cutting them off at the pass but once they get in
your system you just can't trust the pc any further. Even using one of the
online scanners can be problematic because the virus redirects you to what you
think is an online scanner and is actually a site running by the bad guy that
looks the same but introduces yet more malware. If you take the route of
scanning and not reformatting then never ever use a credit card from the pc
again and assume everything you do from now on is being read by a bad guy. Do
what you want but I just wouldn't trust it if you have a bug in the system.
Would you have sex with an aids patient with full blown aids even with a
condom? Likely not because there is still potentially risk, same here. To
late for the rubber my friend.;)
I don't mean to be crude just show you the gravity of the situation.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ch.B.
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:00 AM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
Sounds to me that there really might be a virus, trojan or whatever
that made it way onto your computer. Running a virus scan with softeware on
your machine, may not help, since if the virus already bypassed your anti
virus program it may not even go off now.
I recommend a thorough scan using an online scanner like kaspersky or
pc cillin from trendmicro.
HTH
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Happy chanukah everyone! Chanuka Sameach!
From: accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:accesscomp-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Godwin
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:10 PM
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
I agree, performing a disk reformat and reinstalling windows certainly
will insure the threat is gone. However, that is quite a task. So, I would
start by running a Virus scan with the antivirus software loadded on the
computer and run a spyware scan with a program like SUPER Antispyware Free
Edition. If that doesn't work you probably will need to consider performing the
disk reformat and windows reinstall.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Williams
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:47 AM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
You're dealing with a user with little knowledge of computer
operations.
Can you outline the steps for this process?
If not, can you tell me where to begin looking for the information?
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Granados
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:44 AM
Subject: [accesscomp] Re: windows security issue
Reformat your hard disk and reinstall windows. That's the only way
to be certain you've gotten rid of the threat.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Williams
To: accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:18 AM
Subject: [accesscomp] windows security issue
Hi all,
Recently, my computer started issuing warnings about infected or
suspicious files.
The warnings occur every few minutes even if I press the "cancel
button" that is presented.
By the way, the "cancel button" is the only choice I'm given; and
still the warnings keep appearing, accompanied by the offer to buy some
antimalware protection whose origins I can't locate.
And just to pur insult on top of injury, my computer has started
shutting down and restarting without input from me.
Some help is really needed here!
Marcus
marcus72@xxxxxxx
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