Kevin, I'll be able to answer that question some time next week when Creative's press people send me one. ----- Original Message ----- From: kevin and Emma To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:00 PM Subject: [access-uk] zen stone plus mp3 player ok i know, this has probably been covered here, but of course you don't take notice of stuff until it becomes relevant. basically my wife likes the sound of the creative zen stone plus 2GB player, she has no useful sight like myself, so is it usable? the product description i found doesn't help much. kevin - (lord l) "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice"-Will Durant contact me: email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: lordandladyl