Carol, I well remember you breaking the world speed record with a dotter. Some of us were fairly nigty with the frame, but you left us far behind. Not sure how many mistakes you made though. David -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Carol Pearson Sent: 10 July 2009 22:04 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: technology remembered Well, some of us are left-handed, so that meant I always wrote cross-handed! I could write faster than anyone else I was with at school and have only seldom seen others get up the kind of speeds I managed! Mind you, I had plenty of practice writing pages and pages of letters to friends in the hols when I was bored! -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---- Original Message ---- From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: technology remembered > Hi Eleanor, people who learnt to master dotters have my > admiration. Imagine how it would be if sighted kids had > to learn not only to write letters in mirror fashion but > also from right to left. We'd have a country full of > illiterates. John. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:47 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: technology remembered > > > Oh no John. Having to do it in reverse amd then see it in > reverse when reading really concentrated the mind. > > -original message- > Subject: [access-uk] Re: technology remembered > From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 10/07/2009 1:40 PM > > Hi Eleanor, re what you said about the dotter > familiarising people with the dot formations I would have > thought it the opposite, as the dots came out in reverse. > Your point would certainly go for the > stainsby though. John. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:05 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: technology remembered > > >> Where on earth did you go to school then Brian, no >> Perkins Braillers? I thought my school was backward in >> coming forward but we did have Perkins Braillers, one >> each. Actually with regard to health and safety, that's >> it, maybe I should be suing someone now, who though I do not >> know. I learned Braille with the style and frame (a >> fantastic way to learn it) and I think everyone should >> do likewise today as it helps to really understand the >> complete dot formation. Anyway, where was I/ Yes, the >> arthritis in my finger joints and the welts on my left >> index finger. I attribute it to that 10-year-old >> learning Braille the hard but best way. Boy but the >> arthritis can sure be a problem at times *smile*. >> Eleanor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "brian williams" <firstup@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 12:38 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] technology remembered >> >> >>> Hi >>> I learned braille using the hand frame back in the late >>> 50's. then we had the stainsbys, remember all that >>> noise of 10 stainsbys crashing together, what would >>> health and safety say now with 10 blind people wearing >>> ear muffs and not being able to lipread the teacher. and then, >>> the taylor frame with >>> the lead, yes lead, type. Then came the perkins. >>> Computers, what were they, >>> not in my school, but then i left in 69. >>> Brian >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mann, Madleen" <Madleen.Mann@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:26 AM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: penfirned >>> >>> >>>> Hi Wil, >>>> >>>> You can now order the penfriend from the RNIB. >>>> And to answer your questions, >>>> >>>> Yes, you can easily use the lables more than once >>>> just re-record them. >>>> >>>> And you can use the lables for item's in the freezer >>>> too. >>>> If you want to watch/listen to a demonstration of the >>>> same, why not go to: >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkjKpWHz_F4 >>>> >>>> Hope that helps, best wishes, madleen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of william >>>> lomas Sent: 07 July 2009 11:04 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] penfirned >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, has anyone found out more information on the RNIB >>>> penfriend. *can we re-use each label more than once >>>> *will the labels be able to used to recognize foods >>>> that have been in the freezer? >>>> >>>> Will >>>> p.s. can the instructions for it I wonder, even though >>>> it is not released yet, be downloaded anywhere? >>>> >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the >>>> immediately-following link:- ** >>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, >>>> click on the ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- >>>> faq >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> DISCLAIMER: >>>> >>>> NOTICE: The information contained in this email and >>>> any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. >>>> If you are not the intended recipient you should not >>>> use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content >>>> of it or of any attachment; you are requested to >>>> notify the sender immediately of your receipt of the >>>> email and then to delete it and any attachments from >>>> your system. >>>> RNIB endeavours to ensure that emails and any >>>> attachments generated by its staff are free from >>>> viruses or other contaminants. 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