[access-uk] Re: Talking books - The way ahead
- From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:55:58 -0000
Brian,
Why would you need a daisy player App for an Ipod?
You cannot play a CD on it.
Daisy is a navigation system for CD's
Cheers
Dave
hi
There is a lot of truth in what you say, but, there are some people, who for
various reasons, would be unable to use a touch screen, as in the ipad or ipod
pod etc. a lot of elderly people, especially those newly blind find modern
technology a challenge at the best of times. so yes, i think you raise some
good points to be discussed. There needs to be an option. I would love to be
able to play my talking books on my new little ipod touch instead of the clunky
players which are provided. there are some people who need large definite
controls. why are the rnib and others not looking at this option. they seem to
be reinventing the wheel. is there a daisy player app for the ipod?
Brian
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From: "Ankers, Dave (UK)" <Dave.Ankers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:49 AM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Talking books - The way ahead
> With regard to talking books:
>
> The RNIB provide all the books and a player for £70 a year. If you
> are lucky, your council pays for this.
>
> I do believe there is a better solution. We require information to be
> available in an accessible format.
>
> The best place to find information is on the web, and that includes
> talking books.
>
> The usefulness of a daisy player is very limited, and they are
> expensive, as is all equipment designed for disability groups.
>
> If we can make use of a standard, off the shelf, piece of equipment,
> then the cost saving is massive.
>
> Therefore, I believe the Apple I pad to be the intelligent choice.
>
> You can listen to talking books, listen to music through I tunes or
> free from Utube and listen to podcasts.
>
> You can surf the internet, email, take notes and so much more. Plus
> it cost less than some daisy players and is fully accessible.
>
> If the RNIB were to bulk buy I pads, and supply instead of daisy
> players, the cost of the talking book service would reduce, and the
> availability of information increase and empower it's users.
>
> It's time for change, and I fully recommend it to the house.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
>
> Thank you for a few words of common sense on this topic at last!
> People who whinge about not getting their library subscription paid
> for them and thus not being able to read, really haven't a clue. Yes,
> sighted people don't have to pay as much to belong to a library, but
> then sighted people don't get their books delivered to their doors, do they?
>
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> From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu <mailto:ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:56 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
>
> Hi.
>
> I totally agree here. I cant see what all the fuss is about. Never
> at any time in my life as far as I can remember have I ever had
> talking books paid for by my local council or charity, be it public or
> private. Talking books as supplied by the RNIB is only £69 per year,
> a significant subsidy when you consider they loan you a player and
> potentially dozens of books per year. If you want to read, you should
> be prepared to pay for it as reading is not a human right and even if
> it were, the council in most boroughs provide their own library
> services with books on cd, cassette and even playaway as is the case
> in Peterborough where I live. The fact that some blind people are
> either too lazy or just plane ignorant of these services is no excuse
> not to ask them, for all they have to do is get off their asses or
> pick up the phone and ask. In an age where most young blind people
> and even a large majority of the middle aged and elderly have access
> to technology of some sort or oth er or know people who have access to
> said technology, the information about service provision in your local
> borough is readily available online and details of how to access these
> services is often posted in libraries and town halls. For heaven
> sake, wake up everyone, smell the roses and start putting your hand in
> your pocket and paying for things you want or that you feel you need.
> Joe public doesn't get free books, so why the heck should we.
>
> All the best, Ibrahim.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David <mailto:n.weston42@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 7:36 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to say that for that the last forty years or more I have
> had to pay for my equipment and also for my talking books. So far as I
> can see their is no change for me, or is Hertfordshire unique?
>
> David Weston.
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Gordon Keen
> Sent: 11 January 2011 09:38
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
> (From News Shopper)
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>
>
>
> Here we go then, the big society - my arse!
>
>
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> Charity for blind hits out at Bromley council
>
>
> 1:18pm Monday 10th January 2011
>
> By David Mills
>
> A CHARITY which represents the blind and visually impaired has hit out
> at Bromley Council <http://www.bromley.gov.uk/Default.bromley> for
> temporarily suspending equipment provision.
>
> Services which include the talking books, as well as equipment such as
> walking canes and liquid level indicators, are all under review by the
> council.
>
> Kent Association for the Blind (KAB), which has a sight centre in
> Blyth Road, Bromley, will be pressuring the council to continue
> providing funding.
>
> Dick Groves, aged 65, of South View, Bromley, said: "Visual impairment
> is the most feared of all sensory impairments. Provision in Bromley is
> extremely patchy."
>
> Mr Groves, who is blind, said: "This is a classic example of the way
> in which action has been taken without consultation and without
> information being given to one of the weakest sections of society and
> least able to respond."
>
> Kent Association for the Blind's Bromley
> branch<http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/1536532/>
>
> A KAB spokesman said: "We are currently in contact with our service
> users to explain the service has been temporarily suspended by the
> London borough of Bromley.
>
> "We are sharing other providers of these services such as the Calibre
> audio library, a completely free service, to ensure users are not
> going to go without talking books.
>
> "We at KAB are going to be making representations to the council to
> press the case that it would be more cost effective to continue to
> fund provision because we believe withdrawing that service represents
> a real risk to people's safety and their ability to get out and about.
>
> "The costs that could be generated by injury would far outweigh the
> cost to the council of providing equipment."
>
> A council spokesman said: "We have a strong commitment to providing
> talking books in our libraries with no plans to cut the service and we
> will continue to make special concessions to waive charges to people
> with a registered visual impairment.
>
> "We have however moved from cassettes to CDs and downloadable material
> over the years but we still keep a large collection of older cassettes
> in our Home Library Service, which supports customers who are
> physically unable to get into a branch.
>
> "There are also free national talking book service and as well as our
> library service we will be assisting people to access the talking
> books from the national Calibre service together with the equipment
> provided by the British Wireless for the Blind Fund.
>
> "To make sure we make the best use of our resource we wanted to avoid
> duplication and whilst we no longer fund the KAB talking books
> service, KAB is pointing people to our library and to these free services.
>
> "In terms of equipment supplied by the KAB on our behalf such as
> portable lamps, talking clocks and mobility aids, again we want to
> make sure we use resources as efficiently as possible and have
> suspended this KAB while we carry out a review.
>
> "However we do continue to fund KAB to provide assessment and
> rehabilitation services for people with visual impairments."
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