[access-uk] Re: Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind passengers

  • From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 12:13:00 -0000

Hi,

Fair enough Peter.  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.  I've taken you
off moderation.

Regards,
Barry.
List Admin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Peter Beasley
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:30 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind
> passengers
> 
> Sorry, I sent it to the wrong list. I meant to send it to Vi-gen
> access.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 1:10 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind
> passengers
> 
> 
> > Not to mention off topic!
> >
> > Now c'mon.  I'm totally Blind myself and this annoys me as much as
> anyone
> > else but this is a Access Tech list.  This is also a topic that could
> > quickly explode.
> >
> > Please no one else post on this topic.  I'll allow a cut off period
> up to
> > 1pm tomorrow.  This is to allow folks a bit of flexability.  Peter
> I'm
> > putting you on moderation for a bit.
> >
> > Barry
> > List Admin
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >> Behalf Of Iain Lackie
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:19 AM
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind
> >> passengers
> >>
> >> Judging by the dateline, Is this not rather old news?
> >>
> >> Iain
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Peter Beasley
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:15 AM
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind
> passengers
> >>
> >>
> >> Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind passengers
> >> Ryanair is attacked for ejecting blind passengers
> >> By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
> >> The Independent, Thursday, 13 October 2005
> >> Ryanair, the no-frills airline, is under fire from disability
> >> campaigners for ejecting nine blind and partially sighted passengers
> >> from a
> >> plane just minutes before take-off.
> >> The passengers, who were travelling to Italy for a walking holiday,
> had
> >> completed check-in procedures and were sitting on the plane at
> Stansted
> >> when
> >> the pilot announced they would have to vacate their seats. They were
> >> then
> >> "marched" off and escorted back to the airport lounge.
> >> Some waited six hours for another flight while others were forced to
> >> sleep
> >> on the airport floor overnight. One of the party was so distressed
> by
> >> the
> >> incident - to be featured on BBC's Watchdog
> >> programme next week - she abandoned her holiday.
> >> "It was dreadful. You felt like a criminal. We were all devastated,"
> >> one of
> >> the blind passengers, Beryl Barton, from Norwich, said. "Five
> minutes
> >> before
> >> take-off the pilot asked: 'Are many of you blind?' and we said:
> 'Yes,
> >> one or
> >> two' and he said: 'We have already got disabled people on the flight
> >> and you
> >> will have to get off'. They marched us through to the lounge and
> this
> >> lady
> >> came and she said: 'Of course, you got off of your own accord' and
> we
> >> shouted: 'No, we haven't."
> >> There was no safety justification, she insisted: "We can all walk.
> >> We've all got a partially-sighted or sighted guide. We could get off
> as
> >> quickly as anyone else."
> >> Ryanair explained it could not take the customers because it already
> >> had
> >> three "disabled" people on board (unconnected to the party) and it
> >> stipulates no more than four "disabled" people on each flight.
> >> However, the organiser of the trip, Katherine Hurst said she rang
> >> Ryanair
> >> eight months before she travelled to check there would be no
> problems.
> >> She
> >> said: "The pilot said: 'How would you manage if the cabin was full
> of
> >> smoke'
> >> but it wouldn't make any difference. They are used to not seeing."
> >> Ryanair, whose chief executive is Michael O'Leary, has a
> controversial
> >> record on disabled people. Last year, it lost a case brought by a
> >> disabled
> >> man who was charged 18 for the use of a whreelchair.
> >> Afterwards it said that it would have to raise ticket prices as a
> >> result.
> >> The Royal National Institute for the Blind has received eight
> >> complaints
> >> about Ryanair, an unusually high number about one company.
> >> In one case, it is considering legal action. Jane Vernon, its legal
> >> officer,
> >> said: "I think Ryanair's whole attitude towards disabled people is
> >> disgraceful. Saying on their website they are charging an extra 50p
> per
> >> ticket to pay for wheelchairs for disabled people is despicable."
> >> Ryanair insisted its policy on disabled passengers was "clearly
> >> highlighted"
> >> on its website and did not know of the RNIB's cases. It said it had
> >> "repeatedly apologised" to the passengers removed from the plane.
> >> In-flight turbulence
> >> Bob Ross took on Ryanair over being charged 18 for the use of a
> >> wheelchair
> >> at Stansted in March 2002. When Mr Ross, a cerebral palsy sufferer,
> won
> >> the
> >> case , Ryanair was quick to appeal, saying a 50p surcharge on all
> >> tickets
> >> would be levied to cover the cost of providing wheelchairs. They
> lost
> >> the
> >> appeal.
> >> In March this year, Ryanair was fined 24,000 for misleading
> customers
> >> about
> >> the price of flights from Stansted.
> >> This year, the airline, which charges employees for uniforms,
> announced
> >> that
> >> mobile phones must not be charged at work.
> >> An advert launched just after the London bombings featured Winston
> >> Churchill
> >> saying: "We shall fly them to the beaches ... we shall fly them to
> >> London"
> >> It drew 319 complaints, but was deemed "suitably respectful" by the
> >> Advertising Standards Authority.
> >> From:
> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/ryanair-is-
> attacked-f
> >> or-ejecting-blind-passengers-510715.html
> >>
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