-----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of phil stephenson Sent: 14 December 2007 08:28 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: So... How's Jaws 9. Martin, Sounds good, you say you can rely on it for "almost everything", out of interest what can't you do with SA? Just interested as I'm currently a Jaws 8 user but have run out of SMA's and am seriously thinking ab about other options for the future.. Cheers, Phil To connect with me: Email: phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mobile : 07841 714931 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of martin wilsher Sent: 14 December 2007 05:41 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: So... How's Jaws 9. Hi peter. the only access solution I have found at the moment which is any cop is System access. My biggest frustration with jaws is that the developers had the bug of the non speaking of word and outlook and outlook express and IE in the last beta of nine and I reported it and nothing got done. Now get this. System access recently had a random seemingly non reproducible issue in which after a long period of inactivity, say when you left your pc for some time, when you came back to the pc speech would be gone, even though SA was still loaded into memory. After several discussion group users said this was an issue, but noone could ;pin it down to any particular set of keystrokes etc the developers looked at it, and fixed what was a random bug. that's proper bug fixing in my opinion. find a random bug and work until it is fixed. now SA works much better than it did and I can rely on it for almost everything. -----OMessage From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Logue Sent: 13 December 2007 23:55 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: So... How's Jaws 9. Wow Martin, I sympathise. You paid out this amount of money to FS, hopeing to escape the jaws 8 bad dream and end up in an R. E. M. nightmare. Perhaps I really should consider Window Eyes. Peter -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of martin wilsher Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:56 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: So... How's Jaws 9. Hi all. how's jaws nine for me? not good. installed jaws nine and word 2003 would not speak in pc curser mode, nor would Internet explorer or outlook or outlook express. uninstalled nine and went back to eight to find nine had infected eight somehow and eight, though it worked with word, it did not and still does not work with IE or outlook/outlook express. I've tried repairing and uninstalling everything to no affect. I just thank the hunch I had ages ago that jaws was going to go belly up for me, for I bought System access just in case jaws went funny on me, and it has. I am still trying to solve the jaws issues, which are jaws issues for jaws works in every other app. except the ones mentioned, even strange aps work ok with jaws eight. it seems jaws eight has lost its virtual curser thanks to nine's presence and nine, well, that's just a waste for me. SA though, well, that's saved me on many occasions. and now I use it almost exclusively, only flicking to jaws when needing to use aps that SA does not work well in. Hope to hear from you soon. From Martin. Please email me at: m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Thanks Please visit my website: www.martin-wilsher.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 13 December 2007 22:27 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: So... How's Jaws 9. Hi Leonie, And are you seriously telling me it never crashes? Ever since I put JAWS 9 on, I am getting random freezes even when JAWS is not running. The event viewer tells me they are jawsvid errors. Uninstall JAWS 9 and the problem goes away. Naah, I'll stick to a grown-up screen reader <Smile>. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Léonie Watson Sent: 13 December 2007 21:56 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: So... How's Jaws 9. Perhaps you're just not doing it right Steve. *Smile. I use my computer to program applications and websites, build and administer databases, configure and maintain remote servers, create and edit audio files, as well as all the usual browsing, email, word processing, spreadsheet type activities. Jaws doesn't give me any bother. And before you ask, no I'm not on commission for anybody. Regards, Léonie. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 13 December 2007 20:50 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: So... How's Jaws 9. Hi Derek, Another one on commission. Either that, or you don't need much out of your screen reader <Smile>. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Derek Hornby Sent: 13 December 2007 16:07 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: So... How's Jaws 9. Dave said "Barr humbug to that!" Think of a screen reader like wine. Want the best wine, buy French. Do not buy UK wine! Want the best screen reader, buy Jaws. Jaws has a proven track record and that is why it's the first choice for most of us that seek quality, readability. 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