Darren, German Shepard cross Lab. Dj Paddy----- Original Message ----- From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:19 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog?
Barry, one question about your last post.I didn't recognise the abbreviation GS, as in a "GS Lab". Could you fill inthe blanks for me here? Darran----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 11:46 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog? | Peter, | | I'm posting this to list in the hope that others can take something away | from it as well. | | Please believe me I'm meaning this in the most delicate of ways. | | I'd be speaking quite forcefully to your trainer. || Your pup needs a bit of work on his right shoulder work here. I obviously | don't know your mobility skills or requirements but I find this all quite| alarming and am a bit worried about yourself and your big man. | | I've a GS Lab myself who can be very easily distracted and quite nervy along| with being a 2 year old 95lbs quite pushy and playful in harness when it's| not on to be so. || My advice is to keep your speed slow when you have drops anywhere near you| and try and not let him overtake. | | If you keep the speed down, | | Earny will be able to focus more. | | You will have more control over him. | | You will find it easier to follow the harness movements and orientate | yourself or stop the second you feel disorientated. | | I'm not saying Earnys a rubbish guide just that accidents can and do happen| to the lot of us but both of these are as you've said yourself potentially| serious ones and I feel two close to each other for comfort. | | A quick check from a trainer doesn't do any harm and the point is to be safe| and feel safe. I always tell myself if it takes two hours one day to get | home from work to look at it like that I got home safely if not as quickly| as I'd always like to. | | The warmest regards. | | Barry.| ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Peter Logue" <plsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:12 AM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog? | | | > Hi Jackie, Anthony Gordon and all. | > Ernie is fine this morning. He was his very normal self when he woke up. | > I | > still don't know if anyone in the bar gave him anything. I can only go by | > my | > own sense of how he was acting and the opinions of my friends who | > insisted | > that Ernie was just not as settled at my feet as usual. His manner through | > the evening might have been down to his awareness that his master had been| > hurt. Who knows. He wasn't scolded at all for the incident, but perhaps| > they | > know. . Certainly one does lose confidence when an incident like this | > occurs. I've never really felt 100% safe when it comes to doors and | > corners and steps on my right hand side as Ernie tends not to give me | > enough| > room. Last summer I was walking along Helensburgh waterfront, a one mile| > walk I enjoy twice a week, when Ernie came up behind two old ladies. Well,| > he skirted around them and took me too far to the right and caused me to | > walk off the edge of the 7 foot promenade. Luckily this promenade has a45| > foot slope rather than a sheer drop, but it could have been quite bad if| > the | > tide had been in. I don't know what happened at the station, whither Ernie | > skirted a suitcase and took me off the edge or I got disoriented or a| > combination of both. I certainly thought I was in the middle of the walk| > not | > in fact heading for the edge of the platform. This is how accidents happen | > though and probably no matter how hard I try, I'll always get disoriented | > and lost a time or two. It might only be for three seconds, but that's all | > it takes. | > The main thing is there's no serious injury and Ernie is running in | > circles. | > | > Peter Logue | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----Original Message-----| > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf| > Of | > Jackie Cairns | > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:42 AM | > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog? | > | > Hi Peter | > | > So sorry to hear about your fall and the problems you experienced with | > Ernie. | > | > I do hope your dog recovers, and that this experience hasn't affected your | > confidence too much as it would understandably do after a fall like that. | > | > Good luck. | > | > Jackie | > | > Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx | > Skype Name: Cairnsplace | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Peter Logue" <plsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:35 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Doping a guide dog? | > | > | >> Hi all,| >> Today I was in Helensburgh where my wife and I had just bought another| >> house. I had gone over the property, was quite pleased with the purchase | >> and| >> went to celebrate with a pint or two. My favourite bar is really quite| >> nice | >> and caters to all types. However they also cater to a great many sailors| >> from navy boats that come to dock at Faslane submarine base. Today wasno | >> different and the place was quite busy. After a brief 15 minutes I | >> thought| >> my guide dog was a little listless, kept putting his chin on my knee. I | >> thought he wanted a drink, so I took him a drink. He still kept putting| >> his | >> chin on my knee. The place was busy with all kinds of sailors, some were | >> very friendly, having not seen a lovely dog for some time and wanted his | >> attention. Still his chin was on my knee though. So maybe he wanted a pee | >> or | >> to spend. I took him outside between the cars and he peed a little. | >> Inside | >> again he had a sip of water and tried to settle. But it soon occurred | >> that | >> he was up on his| >> Haunches instead of laying at rest. I just could not figure it out. The | >> place was busy, but its often busy. Sailors are petting him and makinga| >> fuss, as they always do to a fine looking dog. At this time my friends| >> are| >> telling me that Ernie is looking listless and apprehensive in a manner| >> that | >> they had not ever seen before. Anyway its time to go so I harness up the | >> dog| >> and head over to the train station for the train. To cut this short, we| >> are | >> heading up the pavement and into the station where the platforms lie. The| >> train is dead ahead so I tell my guide dog ... Forward Ernie, find the| >> door.| >> He moves forward and walks me right off the platform and I go crashing| >> right | >> onto the tracks. Apparently Ernie had seen the doors alright, but the | >> doors| >> he saw were on the train of the far platform, not any train dead ahead.I | >> can't see of course, as my vision is just dark smoke so I thought he was | >> heading for the door, going by the sound of things as I tend to do these | >> days. It was a close escape I guess. Anyway I felt I had to call my wife | >> for | >> an escort home as I was quite shaken, as was ernie. As we got home we | >> noticed that Ernie was still listless and he went on to sleep all night, | >> not| >> wanting to go out for a pee or nothin'. Later at night when called to| >> head | >> upstairs he usually bounds up two at a time. But tonight he just barely| >> made it up. And when we were upstairs and we encouraged him to a little| >> play, he just laid his head down and could care less. I'm hoping the poor | >> guy isn't in some kind of extasy nightmare but unable to relate. I'm | >> hoping | >> some sailor didn't slip him a piece of blue chocolate. I can't figure why | >> he'd walk me off the edge of a platform. I can't explain his | >> listlessness; | >> he's usually such a vibrant dog. I hope no-one has slipped him something. | >> As | >> to my fall, a torm pair of pants, a badly bruised leg, a sore ego and| >> totally embarrassed. I'll be phoning guide dogs tomorrow to get to the| >> bottome of why Ernie would walk me over the brink when he has turned | >> left,| >> then right, then right these past two years. Luckily I was in the depot| >> of | >> helensburgh central. Had I been in Queen street, I'd have met the 25,000 | >> volt third rail. | >> Peter Logue. | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >> ** and in the Subject line type | >> ** unsubscribe | >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | >> ** immediately-following link:- | >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | >> ** or send a message, to | >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | >> | > | > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ** and in the Subject line type | > ** unsubscribe | > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ** immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ** or send a message, to | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | > | > | > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ** and in the Subject line type | > ** unsubscribe | > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ** immediately-following link:- | > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ** or send a message, to | > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > | > __________ NOD32 2860 (20080208) Information __________ | > | > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. | > http://www.eset.com | > | > | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | ** and in the Subject line type | ** unsubscribe | ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | ** immediately-following link:- | ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | ** or send a message, to | ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | | | __________ NOD32 2861 (20080209) Information __________ | | This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. | http://www.eset.com | | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ NOD32 2861 (20080209) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
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