[access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog?

  • From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:25:38 -0000

Darren,

German Shepard cross Lab.

Dj Paddy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 1:19 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog?


Barry, one question about your last post.

I didn't recognise the abbreviation GS, as in a "GS Lab". Could you fill in
the blanks for me here?

Darran




----- Original Message ----- From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 11:46 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog?


| Peter,
|
| I'm posting this to list in the hope that others can take something away
| from it as well.
|
| Please believe me I'm meaning this in the most delicate of ways.
|
| I'd be speaking quite forcefully to your trainer.
|
| Your pup needs a bit of work on his right shoulder work here. I obviously | don't know your mobility skills or requirements but I find this all quite
| alarming and am a bit worried about yourself and your big man.
|
| I've a GS Lab myself who can be very easily distracted and quite nervy
along
| with being a 2 year old 95lbs quite pushy and playful in harness when it's
| not on to be so.
|
| My advice is to keep your speed slow when you have drops anywhere near you
| and try and not let him overtake.
|
| If you keep the speed down,
|
| Earny will be able to focus more.
|
| You will have more control over him.
|
| You will find it easier to follow the harness movements and orientate
| yourself or stop the second you feel disorientated.
|
| I'm not saying Earnys a rubbish guide just that accidents can and do
happen
| to the lot of us but both of these are as you've said yourself potentially
| serious ones and I feel two close to each other for comfort.
|
| A quick check from a trainer doesn't do any harm and the point is to be
safe
| and feel safe. I always tell myself if it takes two hours one day to get | home from work to look at it like that I got home safely if not as quickly
| as I'd always like to.
|
| The warmest regards.
|
| Barry.
| ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Peter Logue" <plsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:12 AM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog?
|
|
| > Hi Jackie, Anthony Gordon and all.
| > Ernie is fine this morning. He was his very normal self when  he woke
up.
| > I
| > still don't know if anyone in the bar gave him anything. I can only go
by
| > my
| > own sense of  how he was acting and the opinions of my friends who
| > insisted
| > that Ernie was just not as settled at my feet as usual. His manner
through
| > the evening might have been down to his awareness that his master had
been
| > hurt. Who knows. He wasn't scolded at all for the incident, but perhaps
| > they
| > know. . Certainly one does lose confidence when an incident like this
| > occurs. I've never really felt 100%   safe  when it comes to doors and
| > corners and steps on my right hand side as Ernie tends not to give me
| > enough
| > room. Last summer I was walking along Helensburgh waterfront, a one mile
| > walk I enjoy twice a week, when Ernie came up behind two old ladies.
Well,
| > he skirted around them and took me too far to the right and caused me to | > walk off the edge of the 7 foot promenade. Luckily this promenade has a
45
| > foot slope rather than a sheer drop, but it could have been quite bad if
| > the
| > tide had been in. I don't know what happened at the station, whither
Ernie
| > skirted a suitcase and took me off the edge or I got disoriented or a
| > combination of both. I certainly thought I was in the middle of the walk
| > not
| > in fact heading for the edge of the platform. This is how accidents
happen
| > though and probably no matter how hard I try, I'll always get
disoriented
| > and lost a time or two. It might only be for three seconds, but that's
all
| > it takes.
| > The main thing is  there's no serious injury and Ernie is running in
| > circles.
| >
| > Peter Logue
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
| > Of
| > Jackie Cairns
| > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:42 AM
| > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Doping a guide dog?
| >
| > Hi Peter
| >
| > So sorry to hear about your fall and the problems you experienced with
| > Ernie.
| >
| > I do hope your dog recovers, and that this experience hasn't affected
your
| > confidence too much as it would understandably do after a fall like
that.
| >
| > Good luck.
| >
| > Jackie
| >
| > Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
| > Skype Name: Cairnsplace
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "Peter Logue" <plsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:35 PM
| > Subject: [access-uk] Doping a guide dog?
| >
| >
| >> Hi all,
| >> Today I was in Helensburgh where my wife and I had just bought another
| >> house. I had gone over the property, was quite pleased with the
purchase
| >> and
| >> went to celebrate with a pint or two. My favourite bar is really quite
| >> nice
| >> and caters to all types. However they also cater to a great many
sailors
| >> from navy boats that come to dock at Faslane submarine base. Today was
no
| >> different and the place was quite busy. After a brief 15 minutes I
| >> thought
| >> my guide dog was a little listless, kept putting his chin on my knee. I | >> thought he wanted a drink, so I took him a drink. He still kept putting
| >> his
| >> chin on my knee. The place was busy with all kinds of sailors, some
were
| >> very friendly, having not seen a lovely dog for some time and wanted
his
| >> attention. Still his chin was on my knee though. So maybe he wanted a
pee
| >> or
| >> to spend. I took him outside between the cars and he peed a little.
| >> Inside
| >> again he had a sip of water and tried to settle. But it soon occurred
| >> that
| >> he was up on his
| >> Haunches instead of laying at rest. I just could not figure it out. The | >> place was busy, but its often busy. Sailors are petting him and making
a
| >> fuss, as they always do to a fine looking dog. At this time my friends
| >> are
| >> telling me that Ernie is looking listless and apprehensive in a manner
| >> that
| >> they had not ever seen before. Anyway its time to go so I harness up
the
| >> dog
| >> and head over to the train station for the train. To cut this short, we
| >> are
| >> heading up the pavement and into the station where the platforms lie.
The
| >> train is dead ahead so I tell my guide dog ... Forward Ernie, find the
| >> door.
| >> He moves forward and walks me right off the platform and I go crashing
| >> right
| >> onto the tracks. Apparently Ernie had seen the doors alright, but the
| >> doors
| >> he saw were on the train of the far platform, not any train dead ahead.
I
| >> can't see of course, as my vision is just dark smoke so I thought he
was
| >> heading for the door, going by the sound of things as I tend to do
these
| >> days. It was a close escape I guess. Anyway I felt I had to call my
wife
| >> for
| >> an escort home as I was quite shaken, as was ernie. As we got home we
| >> noticed that Ernie was still listless and he went on to sleep all
night,
| >> not
| >> wanting to go out for a pee or nothin'. Later at night when called to
| >> head
| >> upstairs  he usually bounds up two at a time. But tonight he just
barely
| >> made it up. And when we were upstairs and we encouraged him to a little
| >> play, he just laid his head down and could care less. I'm hoping the
poor
| >> guy isn't in some kind of extasy nightmare but  unable to relate. I'm
| >> hoping
| >> some sailor didn't slip him a piece of blue chocolate. I can't figure
why
| >> he'd walk me off the edge of a platform. I can't explain his
| >> listlessness;
| >> he's usually such a vibrant dog. I hope no-one has slipped him
something.
| >> As
| >> to my fall, a torm pair of pants, a badly bruised leg, a sore ego and
| >> totally embarrassed. I'll be phoning guide dogs tomorrow to get to the
| >> bottome of why Ernie would walk me over the brink when he has turned
| >> left,
| >> then right, then right these past two years. Luckily I was in the depot
| >> of
| >> helensburgh central. Had I been in Queen street, I'd have met the
25,000
| >> volt third rail.
| >> Peter Logue.
| >>
| >>
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