[access-uk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Itunes etc.
- From: Iain Lackie <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 15:03:36 +0100
Having read the article, I take your point. However, a streamed track does not
show as a downloaded track so there must be some kind of difference between
what happens when a track is "streamed" as opposed to actually downloaded.
There seems to be some kind of cache. However, unlike with the Amazon Music
player, there seems to be no way of altering the cache size. I am sure that
even with such services as Amazon Music and Spotify, there is some kind of
downloading going on when you think you are actually streaming. Looking at
Usage in Settings would seem to indicate that this is so.
Iain
On 30 Aug 2014, at 02:31 pm, "Kevin Lloyd" <kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Here's one of the places I read it
http://ipod.about.com/od/UsingiCloud/a/How-To-Use-Itunes-Match.htm
It is basically saying that when you play an iTunes Match track from the cloud
on an IOS device, the track is actually being downloaded and played and not
actually streamed in the real sense of streaming.
That's not the only place I have seen this mentioned but feel free to google
yourself if you have a greater boredom tolerance than myself...
-----Original Message----- From: Iain Lackie
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:19 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Bulk] [access-uk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Itunes etc.
If you have read this, your source is wrong. You do not need to download tracks
from iTunes Match to play them. It is treu that you can on occasion get some
strange matches where the track title is completely different from the track
playing or downloaded. This can happen only I suspect where the track has not
been purchased from iTunes.
Iain
On 30 Aug 2014, at 08:45 am, "Kevin Lloyd" <kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Apologies, I did say it was my understanding. I don't personally use iTunes
Match due to it using a lossy format but more importantly, the fact that it
matches by track and not album. This latter point means you can end up with an
album made up of tracks taken from other albums, for example, a version of a
track taken from a compilation album and not the original studio album. This
can result in the volume levels being inconsistent when listening to the album
start to finish or it may be a slightly different version of the track to the
original album track due to it being taken from a remastered or remixed album.
I can appreciate the above doesn't matter to the 80% of shuffle loving lossy
can't hear the difference casual listeners, but it is important to serious
Here's one of the places I read it
http://ipod.about.com/od/UsingiCloud/a/How-To-Use-Itunes-Match.htm
It is basically saying that when you play an iTunes Match track from the cloud
on an IOS device, the track is actually being downloaded and played and not
actually streamed in the real sense of streaming.
That's not the only place I have seen this mentioned but feel free to google
yourself if you have a greater boredom tolerance than myself...
-----Original Message----- From: Iain Lackie
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:19 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Bulk] [access-uk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Itunes etc.
If you have read this, your source is wrong. You do not need to download tracks
from iTunes Match to play them. It is treu that you can on occasion get some
strange matches where the track title is completely different from the track
playing or downloaded. This can happen only I suspect where the track has not
been purchased from iTunes.
Iain
On 30 Aug 2014, at 08:45 am, "Kevin Lloyd" <kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Apologies, I did say it was my understanding. I don't personally use iTunes
Match due to it using a lossy format but more importantly, the fact that it
matches by track and not album. This latter point means you can end up with an
album made up of tracks taken from other albums, for example, a version of a
track taken from a compilation album and not the original studio album. This
can result in the volume levels being inconsistent when listening to the album
start to finish or it may be a slightly different version of the track to the
original album track due to it being taken from a remastered or remixed album.
I can appreciate the above doesn't matter to the 80% of shuffle loving lossy
can't hear the difference casual listeners, but it is important to serious
music lovers.
Having said all of that, I'm sure I have read that you can't stream iTunes
music in the cloud on a portable device without downloading first to the
device. This is what gives the Amazon Music app an advantage as you can stream
from the Amazon cloud as well as playing from the device including being able
to play music in your iTunes library.
-----Original Message----- From: Iain Lackie
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 9:09 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Bulk] [access-uk] Re: [Bulk] Itunes etc.
This is completely incorrect. If you have tracks which are greyed, It means
they have not yet been uploaded and so cannot be played or downloaded. If you
have a lot of tracks to be matched, you have to allow sufficient time for your
library to be matched. You may have to go into iTunes and update iTunes Match
so that the match process can be completed.
Iain
On 29 Aug 2014, at 08:28 pm, "Kevin Lloyd" <kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi BJ.
If you're using Itunes Match then the music is stored in the cloud and you have
to download it to a device to play it as it doesn't support streaming.
Apologies, I did say it was my understanding. I don't personally use iTunes
Match due to it using a lossy format but more importantly, the fact that it
matches by track and not album. This latter point means you can end up with an
album made up of tracks taken from other albums, for example, a version of a
track taken from a compilation album and not the original studio album. This
can result in the volume levels being inconsistent when listening to the album
start to finish or it may be a slightly different version of the track to the
original album track due to it being taken from a remastered or remixed album.
I can appreciate the above doesn't matter to the 80% of shuffle loving lossy
can't hear the difference casual listeners, but it is important to serious
music lovers.
Having said all of that, I'm sure I have read that you can't stream iTunes
music in the cloud on a portable device without downloading first to the
device. This is what gives the Amazon Music app an advantage as you can stream
from the Amazon cloud as well as playing from the device including being able
to play music in your iTunes library.
-----Original Message----- From: Iain Lackie
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 9:09 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Bulk] [access-uk] Re: [Bulk] Itunes etc.
This is completely incorrect. If you have tracks which are greyed, It means
they have not yet been uploaded and so cannot be played or downloaded. If you
have a lot of tracks to be matched, you have to allow sufficient time for your
library to be matched. You may have to go into iTunes and update iTunes Match
so that the match process can be completed.
Iain
On 29 Aug 2014, at 08:28 pm, "Kevin Lloyd" <kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi BJ.
If you're using Itunes Match then the music is stored in the cloud and you have
to download it to a device to play it as it doesn't support streaming.
That's my understanding of Itunes Match and I assume the greyed out tracks are
in the cloud and not yet downloaded to your device.
Regards.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: BJ Edwards
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 6:18 PM
To: access-uk
Subject: [Bulk] [access-uk] Itunes etc.
Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help me with this issue...
I have Itunes on my laptop, I have "Match" and "Home sharing" enabled.
Like magic I can see all my music on both my Apple TV and my Iphone.
However, only the music I downloaded from Itunes plays, the rest of it
(the vast majority) is greyed out and won't play. Any advice welcome!
Thanks,
BJ
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