[access-uk] Re: Battery life of DAISY Cd players - (waslonger power cable for Victor Classic?)
- From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:03:40 -0000
Yusuf
I think if you are lucky enough to get a Plextalk you should still get
reasonable battery life. My Plextalk still gives hours of battery life after
almost three years use.
Iain
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 8:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Battery life of DAISY Cd players - (waslonger power
cable for Victor Classic?)
Personally Ray, I can't understand RNIB's paternalistic attitude when it
comes to the players it loans out to its customers. If its unwilling to
upgrade their firmware and the customer feels confident enough to be able to
do it themselves they ought to be able to get on with it. Its one reason why
I didn't take a player when my local authority started paying for my
subscription. I dread the day when my trusted Plextalk PTR1 gives up and I
have to find the money for a replacement PTR2. I certainly get a couple of
hours battery life out of it and if I'm using the CF card rather than a CD
its more.
From what I've heard about the machines the RNIB loans, the battery either
doesn't work when not on external power or runs out so rapidly that they are
useless.
Let me take this opportunity to wish everyone here a very merry christmas
and a happy new year.
Yusuf
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 1:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Battery life of DAISY Cd players - (waslonger power
cable for Victor Classic?)
> I'll add quickly for those interested that many a conversation on
> DAISY players has been had on the RNIB ARena list and the concensus
> there is that the Plextor PTN1 is the bst player going in terms of
> battery life and usability.
>
> The trouble is that although RNIB supply these players to listeners
> you cannot be sure of getting a Plextor if you send your old player
> back.
>
> The Victor Stream has changed things quite a bit now and many are
> beginning to see this as a viable alternative to the Cd players,
> albeit you have to transfer books for reading. It may well be RNIB
> isn't altogether happy with this solution that many are adopting now
> but given the seeming refusal of RNIB to upgrade machines supplied by
> themselves, well, its one reason people are turning to this
> alternative.
>
> In fact the Stream already looks to be heralding a new style of book
> listening and a move away from CD. this, as well as internet based
> methods. Maybe the oldies will be left with their aging CD players?
>
> Cheers,
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Darren Brewer
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>
>
> Hi Ray
>
> yes you are right, the transformer has been taken out of the unit and
> put
> into the plug. Unfortunately, the old battery problem still remains
> and I
> always used my player connected to the mains as it would only last 10
> minutes on battery power.
>
> Darren.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:52 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>
>
>> Think its safest for me to conclude that my Victor Classic is very
>> old, so the socketry on it is not the same as being described here.
>> It sounds as if the power supply has been taken outside of the main
>> case now possibly in line with the near universal practice of
> in-lead
>> power supplies, or those damned wall warts.
>>
>> I speculate that this may be to accomodate a larger internal battery
>> and thus improve battery life, which was always absolutely pathetic
> on
>> my Victor Classic.
>>
>> All this said, seems to me by far the simplest solution is a short
>> mains extention lead, but I'll bring my contributions to this
>> extrordinary thread to a close now. Promise!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> From Ray
>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Darren Brewer
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>
>>
>> Hi Ray
>>
>> Well like I've just said on my victor classic there is an AC adaptor
>> with
>> what looks like a 3.5mm jack plug, only it is not the same as you
> get
>> with
>> headphones. It's more of a mini phono plug. But saying that you can
>> still
>> get a male to female extension lead for such connectors.
>>
>> Darren.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:23 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>
>>
>>> Well, never thought this could get into the realms of dangerous,
> but
>>> sounds very much like a headphone jack we're talking about here.
>> Now,
>>> don't go trying to connect that one to the mains!
>>>
>>> Yes, my Victor Classic does have a mini-jack headphone socket on
> the
>>> right hand side(CD slot facing you). The mains socket is at the
>> back
>>> of the machine. They haven't changed these players that muchover
>> the
>>> past five years? , have they?
>>>
>>> From Ray
>>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> jim o'brien
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>>
>>>
>>> hi ray and Billy, i understand what billy is saying. i have the
>>> similar
>>> cable. it is a normal 3.5 jack plug at the end of the cable. it
> just
>>> happens
>>> to bend into an l shape.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:09 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Billie, an "L shaped adaptor with a pin"? Surely more than one
>> pin?
>>>> Can you feel some small oblong holes in the L shaped end? Or, can
>>> you
>>>> feel some pins in the hole the L shaped thingy goes into?
>>>>
>>>> On my Classic, the receptor for the lead is situated at the back
> of
>>>> the machine with two thin rectanglular pins within the socket
>>>> receptor and the lead with a moulded plastic plug on it going via
> a
>>>> couple of metres of mains lead to a thirteen amp plug. You can
>> only
>>>> place this sort of plug in the machine one way round, with angled
>>>> corners on the plug going towards the top as you push it home.
>>>>
>>>> All this said, Ive long lost track of the original two pin plug
>> that
>>>> went into my classic, and am using the sort of lead that comes
> with
>>>> kettles and other appliances, such as some audio equimpment.
>>>>
>>>> As Andy says, the simplest thing is to get to Maplin's or
> somewhere
>>>> like that with this lead and see if they've a longer one, or
> simply
>>>> get an extention mains lead.
>>>>
>>>> Pity is we cannot easily excange pictures on this list, otherwise
>>> the
>>>> description of the lead would not be in doubt. Does puzzle me
> that
>>>> people keep refereing to a figure of eight lead, cus mind aint one
>>> of
>>>> those! Whichever it is it's not complicated and I think you'd
> have
>>> to
>>>> try hard to blow the thing up!
>>>>
>>>> Hope you get it sorted.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From Ray
>>>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>>>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of TrueBlue & Proud
>>>> Sent: 22 December 2007 4:10PM
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ray, I'm really not explaining this problem too well.
>>>>
>>>> I'm now sitting with the power cable in my hand.
>>>>
>>>> One end has an ordinary 13 amp plug which plugs into a power mains
>>>> supply on
>>>> the wall.
>>>> The other end has it looks like an L shaped adaptor with a pin,
>>> which
>>>> shoves
>>>> into a female connector on the side of the Victor Classic.
>>>>
>>>> I'm now loosing the will to live, come on and beam me up Scottie,
>>>> Billy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:38 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Darren, Billy and others, this thread gets stranger by the day.
>> It
>>>>> sounds to me as if Billy might have an American or Canadian mains
>>>> lead
>>>>> with his Classic as the two pin plug he describes is common with
>> US
>>>>> designed equipment. Obviously that could be plugged into a
>>>>> shaver-type adaptor, that's if I'm right.
>>>>>
>>>>> My RNIB supplied Victor Classic player came with a mains lead
>>>>> terminated in a 13 amp plug, no doubt with a 3 amp fues in the
>>> plug.
>>>>> The two pin plug socket on mine is physically in design the
> kettle
>>>>> standard sort of appliance leaed, but the Victor Classic isn't
>>>>> earthed, as I think is standard in North America, so carries two
>>>> pins,
>>>>> not three. (This doesn't effect safety folks, so don't get
>>>> concerned
>>>>> on that score!) As I've said, you can plug in a standard kettle
>>>> type
>>>>> appliance leadwhere the earth connection goes simply unused and
> no
>>>>> harm at all in that.
>>>>>
>>>>> This doesn't solve Billy's problem really as I think it is the
>>>> length
>>>>> of the mains lead he's concerned about. As already suggested the
>>>> best
>>>>> and easiest solution is the ubiquitous extention lead. No end of
>>>>> these available at Maplin and the like, in two metre lengths,
>> which
>>>>> should be enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must say at the end of an over long post that, for me, the Victor
>>>>> Stream with a good portable speaker is the better solution for me
>>>> now.
>>>>> Much more portable, which is why its going with me to my sister's
>>>> over
>>>>> christmas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> From Ray
>>>>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>>>>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> Darren Brewer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it certainly doesn't require anywhere near 15 amps. The
>>> player
>>>>> probably draws around an amp at most, so you can get away with
>>> using
>>>>> quite a
>>>>> long extension cable which would be the most straightforward
>>>> solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Darren.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray, I'm not sure how to explain this, but I've just had a look
>> at
>>>>> the
>>>>>> power supply cable.
>>>>>> The power supply has a 15 amp plug on one end & a kind of l
>> shaped
>>>>>> connector, which pushes into a female socket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't think I explained this too well, but hope it gives you an
>>>>> Idea,
>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:34 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, and not wanting to throw a spanner in the works or
>> complicate
>>>>>>> things, but my Victor Classic uses a kettle lead type of plug
> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Victor side, but with two pins. If you have a three pin plug,
>>> (or
>>>>>>> socket, strictly speaking) to plug into the machine then this
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> matter of course as the earth connection simply doesn't get
>> used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All that said, maybe the later Classics do indeed have a figure
>>> of
>>>>>>> eight lead, and if so, then of course ignore this message.
>>> Simply
>>>>>>> that with my Classic I use any old lead around the place to
> plug
>>>> it
>>>>>>> into the mains; and after all this time I certainly have to as
>>>> the
>>>>>>> battery is absollutely useless now!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From Ray
>>>>>>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>>>>>>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> TrueBlue & Proud
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George, this is certainly the cable in question. I'll get my
>>>>> daughter
>>>>>>> to go
>>>>>>> onto Ebay later on, and try get it, thanks,
>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 11:54 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Billy, Am I right in thinking the main cable has one of
>>>>>>> these 2 pin connectors on the opposite end from the 13 amp
>>>>>>> plug? If so, they are known generally as "Figure of 8
>>>>>>> connectors". I've hunted again, and found a 5 metre one on
>>>>>>> E-Bay from a reseller. £4.99 if you "buy now".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's the Tiny URL following by the longer one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zkekj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LONG-FIGURE-OF-FIG-8-MAINS-POWER-CABLE
>>>>>>> -LEAD-5M-5-METRE_W0QQitemZ230190927498QQihZ013QQcategoryZ116
>>>>>>> 852QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of TrueBlue &
>>>>>>> Proud
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:24 AM
>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor
>>>>>>> Classic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George, as usual much sense, the only drawback with
>>>>>>> extensions is that I am
>>>>>>> wanting longer cable for going on holiday, and the power
>>>>>>> socket is quite a
>>>>>>> distance from the bed.
>>>>>>> Maybe, using the battery function is the only solution,
>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:04 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor
>>>>>>> Classic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Billy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a feeling that there are electrical regulations in
>>>>>>> place which prevent suppliers from providing equipment with
>>>>>>> mains cables above 2 - 3 metres. Indeed I've just spent the
>>>>>>> last 20 minutes or so going through some of our supplier
>>>>>>> catalogues, and have not been able to find anything
>>>>>>> suitable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest a normal extension cable might be your best bet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of TrueBlue &
>>>>>>> Proud
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:36 AM
>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor
>>>>>>> Classic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron, me thinks about 5 meeters or so,
>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "ron sears" <r.sears1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:56 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor
>>>>>>> Classic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Billy, how long a cable do you want?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:45 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] longer power cable for Victor
>>>>>>> Classic?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi guys, I'm needing to move my Victor Classic from one
>>>>>>> position to
>>>>>>>> another,
>>>>>>>> and to achieve this, I must have a longer power supply
>>>>>>> cable. The one
>>>>>>>> powering my player at the moment is not long enough to do
>>>>>>> the job. I'm
>>>>>>>> wondering if RNIB Talking Book Service could or will
>>>>>>> provide me with a
>>>>>>>> longer power cable?,
>>>>>>>> Billy
>>
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