[access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS

  • From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:59:16 +0100

I do not quite understand where this idea of approaching a single 
manufacturer is coming from, except it may be that you have to 
start somewhere, so to speak.

I would hope that, eventually, a generic solution or interface 
will be arrived at whereby any DAB set could have an optional 
speech module addeed for accessability.  Just a pitty there is 
always change and pointless format wars in things like sim cards 
and so on.

So, just for the record, I'd go with the Pure II, if it has to be 
one set only that's  going to set an example.
Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS


I think Dave is correct here, though I think the Evoke 2 is a 
good place to
start from.  However a better criteria might be how willing such 
a
manufacturer would be to at least assist in co-development of 
such a
product, and also whether the guts of the radio can be relatively 
easily
adapted as you would have to be tapping in to the registers of 
the
microprocessor or lines to the display to intercept this 
information, it's
usually a case of knowing how they code for the display.  Finally 
you would
consider what percentage of the total unit cost adding the speech 
is going
to run to.  In consumer electronics terms about 30 percent would 
at a rough
guess be the ceiling so you're looking at a talking chipset 
costing between
from £5 to £15 per unit.

I would suggest that whatever speech functionality is specified 
should be
quite simple and basic as a proof of concept to start with. 
Manufacturers
will become reluctant if things get too complicated.  I think 
that's what
put Roberts off producint a similar proof of concept some years 
ago on this
matter.

Hope it goes well.

Regards.

Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave" <groups.dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:31 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS


I suspect we're all going to vote for the set we have, and I'm 
goingto say
the Evoke 2.  As for the conflict, there needs to be a speech 
menu where you
can control the speech by switching on or off particular 
features.  One item
would need to control if the speech blocked the radio while in 
progress or
was simultaneous.  Then, the user, not the manufacturer could 
decide.

The evoke 2 has dab and fm presets, good sound, good reception, 
is portable
and can, if you really want to, be wired to a hifi.

Cheers
Dave



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "UK Radiolist" <uk-radio-listeners@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS


Hi all, and for once, no apology for  cross-posting as this is a 
subject
which has come up on both these lists.  Indeed, if anyone feels 
impelled
to pass this on to the DAB list, feel entirely free.  Anyone 
should also
feel free about responding to me privately as my aim is to canvas 
views
as well as stimulate discussion.
I'm in very preliminary discussions with a rep from a DAB 
manufacturer
about the possibility of producing a DAB radio with speech. 
That's to
say, he's asked me the initial question, would a talking radio be 
a good
idea?  Naturally I've immediately replied that it would very much 
indeed
be a good thing.  So, following that up, could people think about 
the
following.

Is there one set currently available from any manufacturer that 
people
would like to see adapted for speech output?

Which functions would you prioritise as being accessible through 
speech?
For example, would people prefer to have station identification
available over Radiotext?

How would people feel about potential conflicts between station 
output
and speech information?

Any other comments, suggestions very much welcome, particularly 
in the
spirit that they seem up for this.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Cheers now.

Ian

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