[ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] 答复: [ztebladeopensource] Re: Turies
- From: Sebastian Robinson <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ztebladeopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:58:20 +0100
Hi Rob,
Do you have any update for us? its been a week now...
I'm back in the US for Halloween and I've noticed that Boost Mobile are
selling a ZTE Warp and AT&T are selling another device called the Avail that
is apparently another ZTE device...
neither of those two appear on your support site, so that is now at least
three devices on sale with out the kernel sources being available...
I'm sure your aware that the success of the Blade was helped someway by the
open source development community, and I'd hoped that you'd be able to lever
that go onto bigger and better things, but at the moment its not panning out
that way. If I was confident that the bootloader was functional and there
was kernel source for these devices I'd of bought both of these devices but
after the issues with the Turies I thought twice....
Sebastian
2011/10/24 <ying.ben@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> i'm here, i'm always here.
>
> Pls don't worry, and pls don't hurry.
>
> There are a lot of departments in the big ZTE company, so there are a lot
> of walls between the departments.
>
> So we need some times to handle an issue but we will do it.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ben | 应贲 *System engineer*
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> So when HTC, Samsung and SonyEricsson has started to open up their
> bootloaders (SonyEricsson and Samsung even gave away free phones to
> CyanogenMod developers), ZTE starts to make their platform more closed. That
> is a bad move in my opinion.
>
> Do they not realize that open and customizable phones and tablets is what
> people wants and expects now?
>
> I Sweden users of the ZTE V9/Light even bought me a tablet because they
> wanted custom ROMs for it. They suggested it, not me. Now they can all enjoy
> a very stable Android 2.3.7 (in the form of CyanogenMod) on their tablets
> thanks to the community. We can even do multitouch gestures as zooming and
> rotating even though it's a single touch resistive screen. And all the work
> the community put into it can be found on github so what we fix and enhance
> can be useful for ZTE.
>
> If this is where ZTE is heading, then my next device will be from a
> different manufacturer.
>
> /kallt_kaffe
>
> PS. I also would like to know where I can find the kernel source for the
> ZTE V9C (Reliance 3G tab).
>
> Sebastian Robinson skrev 2011-10-23 18:29:
> Thats very true, it makes the Turies a bit of a non-starter for us tho,
> theres no released exploit for 2.3.5 as of yet, so no way to root it, and
> there is no kernel source, or anyway to re-write the boot partition if we
> did..
>
> lets hope that the fastboot problems are an error and will be fixed with an
> update....
>
>
>
> On 23 Oct 2011, at 09:18, József Király wrote:
>
> It might be a modified fastboot, what only accepts uploads via a serial
> console - JTAG, by example. It wouldn't be a surprise, as ZTE has been
> deliberately trying to disable user-flashing, and removing fastboot is a bit
> against the Android principles (to always have a method what can recover a
> dead device). While this principle is not official, as I heard, Google
> requires it most of the time (to make the work of warranty services easier,
> and unified, except Samsung ofc...), and disabling it wasn't the best step,
> so locking it down (á lá HTC) might be a better solution.
>
> 2011/10/23 Tom Giordano <*tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx*<tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> Fastboot without USB is a bit pointless, I don't know why they would both
> including it in the bootloader, but if you can't see anything in lsusb it is
> certainly broken.
>
>
> On 23 October 2011 11:04, Sebastian Robinson <*
> sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx* <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> I'll grab a config tomorrow, if I try and build it against the SKATE kernel
> source there is seems more than happy until it gets to the board file, so I
> cant imagine its going to be too different...
>
> but then it is the usual story with ZTE now, we could 'fix' it but I'd
> rather have the official source from them since its part of the licence
> terms....
>
>
> Im fairly sure that fastboot has no USB, I've not had this problem with any
> of the other devices I've tried it with, from my linux box doing an lsusb
> just shows no USB devices, I've tried it on a windows PC and OSX just to be
> sure.
>
> I also tried using USBTrace on my windows box and its not seeing any sort
> of activity on the USB port when its in fastboot mode, I can get the thing
> into FTM and it's connectable via QPST so im fairly sure there is something
> up with fastboot mode.....
>
> unless you have any other ideas I could try
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23 Oct 2011, at 00:50, Tom Giordano wrote:
>
> The board files should be fairly easy to add (assuming the 2.6.32 source is
> correct). Can you pull a config from your device so I can test it compiles
> before I upload source (I can't find a Turies rom).
>
> USB should work in fastboot, maybe you have a permissions problem (if using
> linux run it as root). USB is deliberately disabled in recovery by ZTE's
> FTM_MODE config switch.
>
> On 23 October 2011 04:24, Sebastian Robinson <*
> sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx* <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm not sure if anyone is still subscribed here, or if ZTE follow this, but
> I just wanted to flag up that the ZTE Turies is now available to buy in the
> UK, but there is no sign of the source code on ZTE's support site.... It
> comes with a 2.6.35 kernel, so I checked the Skate and Roamer source but was
> unable to build a kernel using that since the board files are missing.
>
> I also noticed that when I reboot the device into recovery or fastboot mode
> there is no USB, is this on purpose?
>
> Cheers,
> Sebastian
>
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