[ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] 答复: [ztebladeopensource] Re: Turies
- From: Tom Giordano <tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ztebladeopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 12:04:50 +1100
Sebastian, I'm confident the source I have will work. Its not what ships on
the device, and ZTE should provide that code, but its better than nothing.
Can you grab /proc/config.gz off your device so I can make sure it compiles
before uploading the source.
Tom.
2011/10/30 Sebastian Robinson <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Yes sorry I meant Ben...
>
> I blame the jet lag :)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 29, 2011, at 20:13, rjm2k1 <rjm2k1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi seb I think your message was directed at zte. Personally I will be
> sticking with my blade for the next six months or so after which I will see
> what's out there. Unless zte change their attitude it won't be one of their
> devices for me next, its one thing providing little or no support but
> deliberately preventing those who are willing to do it for free and totally
> ignoring licence obligations of software provided to them for free is
> unacceptable in my book.
> maybe the fsf or google will educate them and improve the situation but
> that remains to be seen. At least mainstream manufacturers are now seeing
> the light and opening up their devices. Maybe zte will see the skate flop
> and see the error of their ways.
> Rob
> On 29 Oct 2011 19:58, "Sebastian Robinson" <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Do you have any update for us? its been a week now...
>>
>>
>> I'm back in the US for Halloween and I've noticed that Boost Mobile are
>> selling a ZTE Warp and AT&T are selling another device called the Avail that
>> is apparently another ZTE device...
>>
>> neither of those two appear on your support site, so that is now at least
>> three devices on sale with out the kernel sources being available...
>>
>> I'm sure your aware that the success of the Blade was helped someway by
>> the open source development community, and I'd hoped that you'd be able to
>> lever that go onto bigger and better things, but at the moment its not
>> panning out that way. If I was confident that the bootloader was functional
>> and there was kernel source for these devices I'd of bought both of these
>> devices but after the issues with the Turies I thought twice....
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> 2011/10/24 <ying.ben@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> i'm here, i'm always here.
>>>
>>> Pls don't worry, and pls don't hurry.
>>>
>>> There are a lot of departments in the big ZTE company, so there are a lot
>>> of walls between the departments.
>>>
>>> So we need some times to handle an issue but we will do it.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Ben | 应贲 *System engineer*
>>> Project Management Dept. IV | ZTE Handset Division
>>> Seat A2016, Room A205, No.889 Bibo Road, Pudong District, Shanghai.
>>> Tel:+86-21-6889-5200 | Mail:ying.ben@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> *kb <krister@xxxxxxxxxxxx>*
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>>>
>>> So when HTC, Samsung and SonyEricsson has started to open up their
>>> bootloaders (SonyEricsson and Samsung even gave away free phones to
>>> CyanogenMod developers), ZTE starts to make their platform more closed. That
>>> is a bad move in my opinion.
>>>
>>> Do they not realize that open and customizable phones and tablets is what
>>> people wants and expects now?
>>>
>>> I Sweden users of the ZTE V9/Light even bought me a tablet because they
>>> wanted custom ROMs for it. They suggested it, not me. Now they can all enjoy
>>> a very stable Android 2.3.7 (in the form of CyanogenMod) on their tablets
>>> thanks to the community. We can even do multitouch gestures as zooming and
>>> rotating even though it's a single touch resistive screen. And all the work
>>> the community put into it can be found on github so what we fix and enhance
>>> can be useful for ZTE.
>>>
>>> If this is where ZTE is heading, then my next device will be from a
>>> different manufacturer.
>>>
>>> /kallt_kaffe
>>>
>>> PS. I also would like to know where I can find the kernel source for the
>>> ZTE V9C (Reliance 3G tab).
>>>
>>> Sebastian Robinson skrev 2011-10-23 18:29:
>>> Thats very true, it makes the Turies a bit of a non-starter for us tho,
>>> theres no released exploit for 2.3.5 as of yet, so no way to root it, and
>>> there is no kernel source, or anyway to re-write the boot partition if we
>>> did..
>>>
>>> lets hope that the fastboot problems are an error and will be fixed with
>>> an update....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Oct 2011, at 09:18, József Király wrote:
>>>
>>> It might be a modified fastboot, what only accepts uploads via a serial
>>> console - JTAG, by example. It wouldn't be a surprise, as ZTE has been
>>> deliberately trying to disable user-flashing, and removing fastboot is a bit
>>> against the Android principles (to always have a method what can recover a
>>> dead device). While this principle is not official, as I heard, Google
>>> requires it most of the time (to make the work of warranty services easier,
>>> and unified, except Samsung ofc...), and disabling it wasn't the best step,
>>> so locking it down (á lá HTC) might be a better solution.
>>>
>>> 2011/10/23 Tom Giordano <*tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx*<tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> Fastboot without USB is a bit pointless, I don't know why they would both
>>> including it in the bootloader, but if you can't see anything in lsusb it is
>>> certainly broken.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 October 2011 11:04, Sebastian Robinson <*
>>> sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx* <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> I'll grab a config tomorrow, if I try and build it against the SKATE
>>> kernel source there is seems more than happy until it gets to the board
>>> file, so I cant imagine its going to be too different...
>>>
>>> but then it is the usual story with ZTE now, we could 'fix' it but I'd
>>> rather have the official source from them since its part of the licence
>>> terms....
>>>
>>>
>>> Im fairly sure that fastboot has no USB, I've not had this problem with
>>> any of the other devices I've tried it with, from my linux box doing an
>>> lsusb just shows no USB devices, I've tried it on a windows PC and OSX just
>>> to be sure.
>>>
>>> I also tried using USBTrace on my windows box and its not seeing any sort
>>> of activity on the USB port when its in fastboot mode, I can get the thing
>>> into FTM and it's connectable via QPST so im fairly sure there is something
>>> up with fastboot mode.....
>>>
>>> unless you have any other ideas I could try
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Oct 2011, at 00:50, Tom Giordano wrote:
>>>
>>> The board files should be fairly easy to add (assuming the 2.6.32 source
>>> is correct). Can you pull a config from your device so I can test it
>>> compiles before I upload source (I can't find a Turies rom).
>>>
>>> USB should work in fastboot, maybe you have a permissions problem (if
>>> using linux run it as root). USB is deliberately disabled in recovery by
>>> ZTE's FTM_MODE config switch.
>>>
>>> On 23 October 2011 04:24, Sebastian Robinson <*
>>> sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx* <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if anyone is still subscribed here, or if ZTE follow this,
>>> but I just wanted to flag up that the ZTE Turies is now available to buy in
>>> the UK, but there is no sign of the source code on ZTE's support site....
>>> It comes with a 2.6.35 kernel, so I checked the Skate and Roamer source but
>>> was unable to build a kernel using that since the board files are missing.
>>>
>>> I also noticed that when I reboot the device into recovery or fastboot
>>> mode there is no USB, is this on purpose?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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