[ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] 答复: [ztebladeopensource] Re: Turies
- From: Sebastian Robinson <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ztebladeopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:33:11 +0000
Tom
sorry been out of town for halloween, I'll upload the config later
tonight...
2011/10/30 Tom Giordano <tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sebastian, I'm confident the source I have will work. Its not what ships
> on the device, and ZTE should provide that code, but its better than
> nothing. Can you grab /proc/config.gz off your device so I can make sure it
> compiles before uploading the source.
>
> Tom.
>
>
> 2011/10/30 Sebastian Robinson <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Yes sorry I meant Ben...
>>
>> I blame the jet lag :)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2011, at 20:13, rjm2k1 <rjm2k1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi seb I think your message was directed at zte. Personally I will be
>> sticking with my blade for the next six months or so after which I will see
>> what's out there. Unless zte change their attitude it won't be one of
>> their devices for me next, its one thing providing little or no support but
>> deliberately preventing those who are willing to do it for free and totally
>> ignoring licence obligations of software provided to them for free is
>> unacceptable in my book.
>> maybe the fsf or google will educate them and improve the situation but
>> that remains to be seen. At least mainstream manufacturers are now seeing
>> the light and opening up their devices. Maybe zte will see the skate flop
>> and see the error of their ways.
>> Rob
>> On 29 Oct 2011 19:58, "Sebastian Robinson" <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>> Do you have any update for us? its been a week now...
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm back in the US for Halloween and I've noticed that Boost Mobile are
>>> selling a ZTE Warp and AT&T are selling another device called the Avail
>>> that is apparently another ZTE device...
>>>
>>> neither of those two appear on your support site, so that is now at
>>> least three devices on sale with out the kernel sources being available...
>>>
>>> I'm sure your aware that the success of the Blade was helped someway by
>>> the open source development community, and I'd hoped that you'd be able to
>>> lever that go onto bigger and better things, but at the moment its not
>>> panning out that way. If I was confident that the bootloader was
>>> functional and there was kernel source for these devices I'd of bought both
>>> of these devices but after the issues with the Turies I thought twice....
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>> 2011/10/24 <ying.ben@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> i'm here, i'm always here.
>>>>
>>>> Pls don't worry, and pls don't hurry.
>>>>
>>>> There are a lot of departments in the big ZTE company, so there are a
>>>> lot of walls between the departments.
>>>>
>>>> So we need some times to handle an issue but we will do it.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Ben | 应贲 *System engineer*
>>>> Project Management Dept. IV | ZTE Handset Division
>>>> Seat A2016, Room A205, No.889 Bibo Road, Pudong District, Shanghai.
>>>> Tel:+86-21-6889-5200 | Mail:ying.ben@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *kb <krister@xxxxxxxxxxxx>*
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>>>> [ztebladeopensource] Re: Turies
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So when HTC, Samsung and SonyEricsson has started to open up their
>>>> bootloaders (SonyEricsson and Samsung even gave away free phones to
>>>> CyanogenMod developers), ZTE starts to make their platform more closed.
>>>> That is a bad move in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Do they not realize that open and customizable phones and tablets is
>>>> what people wants and expects now?
>>>>
>>>> I Sweden users of the ZTE V9/Light even bought me a tablet because they
>>>> wanted custom ROMs for it. They suggested it, not me. Now they can all
>>>> enjoy a very stable Android 2.3.7 (in the form of CyanogenMod) on their
>>>> tablets thanks to the community. We can even do multitouch gestures as
>>>> zooming and rotating even though it's a single touch resistive screen. And
>>>> all the work the community put into it can be found on github so what we
>>>> fix and enhance can be useful for ZTE.
>>>>
>>>> If this is where ZTE is heading, then my next device will be from a
>>>> different manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>> /kallt_kaffe
>>>>
>>>> PS. I also would like to know where I can find the kernel source for
>>>> the ZTE V9C (Reliance 3G tab).
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian Robinson skrev 2011-10-23 18:29:
>>>> Thats very true, it makes the Turies a bit of a non-starter for us tho,
>>>> theres no released exploit for 2.3.5 as of yet, so no way to root it, and
>>>> there is no kernel source, or anyway to re-write the boot partition if we
>>>> did..
>>>>
>>>> lets hope that the fastboot problems are an error and will be fixed
>>>> with an update....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Oct 2011, at 09:18, József Király wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It might be a modified fastboot, what only accepts uploads via a serial
>>>> console - JTAG, by example. It wouldn't be a surprise, as ZTE has been
>>>> deliberately trying to disable user-flashing, and removing fastboot is a
>>>> bit against the Android principles (to always have a method what can
>>>> recover a dead device). While this principle is not official, as I heard,
>>>> Google requires it most of the time (to make the work of warranty services
>>>> easier, and unified, except Samsung ofc...), and disabling it wasn't the
>>>> best step, so locking it down (á lá HTC) might be a better solution.
>>>>
>>>> 2011/10/23 Tom Giordano <*tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx*<tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >
>>>> Fastboot without USB is a bit pointless, I don't know why they would
>>>> both including it in the bootloader, but if you can't see anything in lsusb
>>>> it is certainly broken.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 October 2011 11:04, Sebastian Robinson <*
>>>> sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx* <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> I'll grab a config tomorrow, if I try and build it against the SKATE
>>>> kernel source there is seems more than happy until it gets to the board
>>>> file, so I cant imagine its going to be too different...
>>>>
>>>> but then it is the usual story with ZTE now, we could 'fix' it but I'd
>>>> rather have the official source from them since its part of the licence
>>>> terms....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Im fairly sure that fastboot has no USB, I've not had this problem with
>>>> any of the other devices I've tried it with, from my linux box doing an
>>>> lsusb just shows no USB devices, I've tried it on a windows PC and OSX just
>>>> to be sure.
>>>>
>>>> I also tried using USBTrace on my windows box and its not seeing any
>>>> sort of activity on the USB port when its in fastboot mode, I can get the
>>>> thing into FTM and it's connectable via QPST so im fairly sure there is
>>>> something up with fastboot mode.....
>>>>
>>>> unless you have any other ideas I could try
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Oct 2011, at 00:50, Tom Giordano wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The board files should be fairly easy to add (assuming the 2.6.32
>>>> source is correct). Can you pull a config from your device so I can test it
>>>> compiles before I upload source (I can't find a Turies rom).
>>>>
>>>> USB should work in fastboot, maybe you have a permissions problem (if
>>>> using linux run it as root). USB is deliberately disabled in recovery by
>>>> ZTE's FTM_MODE config switch.
>>>>
>>>> On 23 October 2011 04:24, Sebastian Robinson <*
>>>> sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx* <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if anyone is still subscribed here, or if ZTE follow this,
>>>> but I just wanted to flag up that the ZTE Turies is now available to buy in
>>>> the UK, but there is no sign of the source code on ZTE's support site....
>>>> It comes with a 2.6.35 kernel, so I checked the Skate and Roamer source but
>>>> was unable to build a kernel using that since the board files are missing.
>>>>
>>>> I also noticed that when I reboot the device into recovery or fastboot
>>>> mode there is no USB, is this on purpose?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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