[yoshimi] Significant changes to the Engine? -- Re: Yoshimi V 1.5.10
- From: Ichthyostega <prg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Will Godfrey <willgodfrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, yoshimi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 06:30:45 +0100
Am 06.12.18 um 19:29 schrieb Will Godfrey:
The major work was on the CLI, so if anyone has some spare time (whatever
that is) please jump all over this.
There have also been a number of GUI changes regarding deactivating controls
that do nothing when their related selector is 'off'. I just found one silly
mistake, so see if there are any others!
is it possible that there are significant changes to the Engine?
I can't get rid of the nagging impression, that it somehow, subtly sounds
different. I wasn't even prepared and certainly did not pay special attention
to the sound; I just did some tests, poked around in the UI, changed some
settings, the usual tests. But while doing so, it occurred to me that my
instruments somehow "feel" different.
Now I've spent quite some time playing several of the last Yoshimi builds,
in various orders. None of the previous releases seem to differ, but, again
and again, the new release RC1 seems to be different somehow. It does not
sound bad in any way, but I can't get rid of the gut feeling, that I
would have to re-voice my instruments. The presence or character of the
overtones seems to have changed. At various places, the balance between
foundation and higher overtones seemed out of proportion, while I can recall
for sure that I spent work specifically to get that right. Beyond that, also
the sound seems more shallow, with less air, less rich and there is much more
sense of "sameness", if you play the voice for a longer time.
Generally speaking, this sense of "sameness" is a common problem of many
electronic instruments. It is blatantly evident with all sample based synths.
And one of the outstanding features of Zyn / Yosh was that it did not suffer so
much from that subtle problem, especially if you crank up the wavetable size of
PadSynth, or use SubSynth a lot (which unfortunately is quite CPU intensive)
Now I do not know what to say... Many music related stuff is a matter of gut
feeling, and instrument building makes no exception here. And, I spent so
much time with sound mixing and mastering, that I made numerous times the
experience that such a judgement can be misleading and you may hear differences
where there aren't any. So for now I'll just call it a day (rather a night...)
and revisit that issue later this day.....
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