----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Binswanger" <hb@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <xywrite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Re: copying & pasting between XY and MS Thanks, Harry. I'll try to answer your questions here: > > I know these things are personal, but why would you prefer a full-screen > (which used to be something about 15" diagonally) to having that same size > as a window on a larger monitor? Full-screen simply deprives one of the > Windows taskbar, with no plus side that I can see. It is kind of personal, but at least two things I prefer about fullscreen: 1) Serifs--easier to read. Now, if I could get a serifed font in Xy4 or some other way, I'm game. 2) The windowed screens can be difficult to "stretch" to fill the monitor and, like Carl, I prefer Xy's peaceful black-and-white sea of words, without MS distractions. Also, sometimes I can't get the usual 22 lines of type to fill the screen; the 22 lines will appear but there'll be a big black space of nothing below. (SOrry, I can't tell you what exactly procedure produces this effect, since I don't have an XP computer handy now.) > >1) No taskbar: > >On my ME, when I hit alt-enter, I get a small screen that reads "EDITOR" > >at the very top, and under that, a taskbar with the edit icons--"mark," > >"copy," "paste"--as well as "properties," "fonts," and an icon to return > >to full screen. But when I've tested Xy (via flashdrive) on an Xp (or on > >Vista, which is worse), there's no taskbar at all. Instead, this appears > >at the very top: E:\Xywrite\EDiTOR.EXE. > > Have you tried right-clicking (I forget whether you do this with cursor on > title bar or in text area)? Right clicking does the same thing as left clicking and regardless of where I click. > >Is there a more efficient way to do this on XP? > > The tremendously more efficient way is to use U2. Then you can simply do > ctrl-C and ctrl-V (or whichever keys you assign) as in Windows. It's not an > ME vs. XP issue. > The U2 requires Xy 4. I'm pretty sure you can get that free. To the user, > Xy4 is almost exactly like Xy III+, but it has improvements in XPL handling. > > If you don't want to get Xy4, you have to do right-click/Edit/Mark etc. > > I'd 100% recommend getting Xy4. You can get it here: > > http://www.xywrite.com/ttg/y2k/y2k.htm > > Why not just download it, unzip it to get editor.exe (making sure you do it > in a directory that won't overwrite Xy III's editor.exe). And then try it > out? I'm pretty sure you don't actually need *any* other files to see what > it looks like. Then, if you're calmed by the familiarity of it, you can use > your existing keyboard files, etc. and download the U2 from: > > http://www.serve.com/xywwweb/ I will try this. Thanks! > >2) The things and arrows of copying/pasting from XY to Windows: > >For years, I've been writing on Xywrite and going through this clunky but al- > >ways reliable process to send a piece in: > >--insert a 3 1/2" floppy and copy the story from C: to A: > >--copy the story from A: to the floppy via email (on Outlook Express) by > >clicking "insert," then "text from file") > > Why is the copy to A: even involved? Why not go straight from C:? It just doesn't work straight from C: > >But coming out of my cozy cave, I see that these new-fangled computers > >don't do floppies. And so the only way to copy/paste from Xy to email is > >to use the mark-copy-paste technique in Xy on windows. > > Why? You seem to say that Outlook will import text files, and that's what > Xy files are. I don't know if I quite understand your answer, but the Outlook importing works only from a floppy (at least on my ME). If no floppy's available on a newer computer, then I imagine I'd have to do the cumbersome mark/copy/paste method. > > >But when I copy to email, long arrows, little boxes, or weird question > >marks appear wherever I've used the enter key to end a graf or create an > >extra line. Then, in the email or Word doc, I have to manually delete each > >little arrow or box, evidence of which I've left in the graf above. > > > >Is there a better way to do this? > > Lots. If you use Outlook's Insert/File option, you are sending it as an > attachment. Is that producing the strange characters? Are they only at the > bottom of the file? > Using Outlook's Insert/File does work fine--no arrows or strange characters (and only one box at the very end, as you say). But again, on my current set-up I can do that only from an A: floppy. Does Outlook Insert/File work on an XP without a floppy? If so, great. > >>3) No scrolling while copying allowed: >>Using the mark-copy-paste method for XY to email (and this problem is on >>ME as well as XP) you can only "mark" a page (22 lines on my system) at a >>time. In full-screen Xy, you can copy and scroll at the same time (but of >>course copy/paste only within Xy). Is there anyway to avoid this? >Don't know about this. > >>4) Finally, before I buy a system, which is likely to best solve the above >>problems? A straight Xp Pro, Win7 32 bits with an Xp downgrade, virtual >>PC, and/or partitions? (I don't quite understand the recent partition >>thread, so this question may make no sense: Is there a way to partition ME >>(from an original disk I have) into a new computer? >> >I don't know, but I don't see any advantage to XP Pro over the (cheaper?) >XP Home edition. I've used both. >>My computer guy (a 14 year old!) tried some of these combos, and concluded >>that the advantages of an ME (taskbar, full Xy screen, the floppy >>business) can't really be replicated. His experiments are below. Anything >>he missed? I see he didn't try Win7 32 bits. Would that make a difference? > >>I apologize for such a long post, and thank you all in advance for your >>guidance.