[Wittrs] Re: Who beat Kasparov?

  • From: Gordon Swobe <gts_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:53:05 -0700 (PDT)

--- On Sat, 3/20/10, jrstern <wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> Gordon Swobe <wittrsamr@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- On Sat, 3/20/10, jrstern <wittrsamr@...>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > Let me state it more clearly: the mind, according
> to strong
> > > AI, must be hosted on some kind of mechanical
> system. 
> > > With which point Searle agrees, while somehow
> asserting that
> > > electronic computers are the wrong kind of
> mechanical system
> > > and the brain is the right kind of mechanical
> system. 
> > 
> > You have Searle wrong. He does not agree that the mind
> "must be hosted on some kind of mechanical system". 
> > 
> > He disagrees with your implied assumption that any
> kind of substrate, organic or otherwise, can "host" a mind.
> 
> 
> Yes he does, and it is one of his prime arguments.
> 
> That's why he goes on about abstraction, abstraction is the
> wrong kind of thing on which to build any feature of a
> physical, biological system.

Abstraction is not a substance or substrate on which one builds anything aside 
from other abstractions. You misuse the word.

The point is that only a dualist would think of the mind as "hosted" on brain 
matter OR on silicon (as in the case of AI).

> But he makes it explicit, I believe in each of his major
> publications.  Must I dig up the lines?

Yes you must.

-gts



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