SWM wrote:
Now Joe's original point was that the text he cited demonstrated that Searle wasn't denying that computers could be conscious but only that programs could. But when we look at that text in context and more closely we see that he IS talking about computers running programs, i.e., his argument aims to deny that computers could be conscious DOING WHAT COMPUTERS DO. This isn't about some mysterious occurrence of consciousness that's analogous to how computers qua machines generate heat and noise in operation -- a thing no one in AI is claiming.
So this passage doesn't support a claim that my point that his denial of computationally caused consiousness contradicts his affirmation of brain caused consciousness.
precisely,you claim that his denial of computationally caused consiousness contradicts his affirmation of brain caused consciousness; and, the quoted passage does not support such a claim.
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