SWM wrote: >Joseph Polanik wrote: >>SWM wrote: >>>The equivocation serves to mask the trick, as it were, to create a >>>kind of illusion that a truism has been discovered. >>you haven't shown that there is an equivocation. let alone that it >>masks an illusion. >I've made my case. You find it unconvincing. What else is new? okay, you've rested your case against the validity of the CRA. I'll summarize the status of your allegation that the CRA is logically invalid. Gordon presented the three axiom version of the CRA taken from Searle's SciAm article; and, claimed that the conclusion followed from the premises, which is clearly a claim that the CRA is logically valid; meaning, that the conclusion follows from the premises irregardless of whether the premises are true. you contested Gordon's conclusion; but, presented little that was not a challenge to the truth of the third axiom ("Syntax by itself is neither constitutive of nor sufficient for semantics"). you alleged that the CRA needed a 4th axiom to deduce the conclusion from the three explicit axioms; however, when asked to specify the 4th axiom, all you did was allege that the TATA required certain presuppositions before one could conclude that the third axiom is true. you also alleged that the third axiom contained an equivocation; but, all that you showed was that the third axiom made two claims. since neither of these contradicts the other; and, since Searle is clearly making both claims, it is still unclear that a fallacy has been committed. * * * since you've now rested your case, perhaps we can move on to discussing issues concerning the Third Axiom is True Argument, TATA, that Searle obviously makes and that you obviously contest --- without having to deal further with your attempts to conflate your challenges to the TATA with your case that the CRA is logically invalid. Joe -- Nothing Unreal is Self-Aware @^@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@^@ http://what-am-i.net @^@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@^@ ========================================== Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/