--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "iro3isdx" <xznwrjnk-evca@...> wrote: > > --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "SWM" <SWMirsky@> wrote: > > > > If your explanation is that: > > > > homeostasis (yields/leads to) --> pragmatics --> perception --> > > consciousness (the features of) > > > and we presume that "consciousness" includes intentionality > > > then aren't you suggesting, by a proposal that "perception" = the > > receipt/use/shaping of "intentional information", that consciousness > > must already be present? > > You are reading too much into that use of "intentional." I suggested > that word only for its descriptive value. I am not in any way > depending on an assumption that it is intentional. There isn't any > actual circularity. > > Regards, > Neil Okay, I'm trying to get this Neil. Your other response, with much more text, looks like I will have to apply some time to and I just got done responding to a really long one from new member Justintruth so I'm going to call it a night here for now. Not as young as I used to be. I will try to do justice to your comments some time tomorrow (unless my own writing is taking off again in which case there might be a bit more delay). I am really trying to see where you are going with this and note that I didn't mean to "blow you off" in that nearby post as you put it. Indeed, I wasn't aware I was doing anything that might look like that to you. When I attempt a fuller response tomorrow I'll look at what you said about that more closely. G'night! SWM ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/