[Wittrs] Is Homeostasis the Answer? (Re: Variations in the Idea of Consciousness)

  • From: "SWM" <SWMirsky@xxxxxxx>
  • To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:13:10 -0000

--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "iro3isdx" <xznwrjnk-evca@...> wrote:

>
> --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "SWM" <SWMirsky@> wrote:
>
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> > If your explanation is that:
>
>
> > homeostasis (yields/leads to) --> pragmatics --> perception -->
> > consciousness (the features of)


>
> > and we presume that "consciousness" includes intentionality
>


> > then aren't you suggesting, by a proposal that "perception" = the
> > receipt/use/shaping of "intentional information", that consciousness
> > must already be present?
>

> You are reading too much into that use of "intentional."  I suggested
> that word only for its descriptive value.  I am not in any way
> depending on an assumption that it is intentional.  There isn't  any
> actual circularity.
>
> Regards,
> Neil

Okay, I'm trying to get this Neil. Your other response, with much more text, 
looks like I will have to apply some time to and I just got done responding to 
a really long one from new member Justintruth so I'm going to call it a night 
here for now. Not as young as I used to be. I will try to do justice to your 
comments some time tomorrow (unless my own writing is taking off again in which 
case there might be a bit more delay).

I am really trying to see where you are going with this and note that I didn't 
mean to "blow you off" in that nearby post as you put it. Indeed, I wasn't 
aware I was doing anything that might look like that to you. When I attempt a 
fuller response tomorrow I'll look at what you said about that more closely.

G'night!

SWM

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