--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Cayuse" <z.z7@...> wrote: > I see a bent pencil. What added value is there is postulating the existence > of something that "consciously experiences" the seeing of that pencil? When you tell me "I see a red pencil", I don't postulate "You". Rather, I have no reason to doubt that there is "You", a person, who sees a red pencil. Now, I may be wrong. Perhaps you are a robot that is programmed to say "I see a red pencil" when that object is its visual field. Then there is no "You." But there is still "Me" wondering what will happen next. bruce ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/